Quoting Jimmy Johnson (2019-12-16 02:13:08) > On 12/14/19 5:29 AM, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: > > Hi Alessandro, > > > > Quoting Alessandro Vesely (2019-12-14 13:23:14) > >> On Sat 14/Dec/2019 03:18:39 +0100 Kenneth Parker wrote: > >>> > >>> I use Devuan, especially on older hardware. Works well. > >> > >> > >> Good to know. For the time being, I see SysV is working. I'm on > >> old-stable Debian. As, in a few months, it will be time to > >> migrate, I'll have to decide on Devuan (current) vs. Buster. Any > >> recommendation on that? Will the voted resolution shred any light > >> on migration strategies? > > > > Since this is a Debian list, I recommend to discuss Debian here, and > > consult Devuan mailinglist for details of what they can offer. > > > > The vote currently in Debian will affect _future_ releases of > > Debian, not the current stable release, Buster. > > > > For Debian Buster (regardless of the outcome of the vote) SysV is a > > supported init system: Please do report any flaws you may encounter! > > Kde5 on buster without systemd don't work, True, and also what I wrote (and even mentioned KDE explicitly): Depends on which kind of system you need and how much of systemd must be gone. In case you missed, here it is again: > Beware in discussions here and elsewhere to distinguish between these: > > a) running a system with SysV as init system > b) running a system without systemd installed > c) running a system without libsystemd0 installed > > If you need a), then quite likely Debian Buster is fine for you. > > If you need b) and don't need a complex¹ X11/Wayland desktop > environment, then Debian Buster is likely fine as well. > > If you need c) and/or a complex¹ X11/Wayland desktop environment, then > Debian Buster is most likely no fun for you - might be possible, but > you will feel alone and bugreports will be harder to debug due to your > complex setup (in particular your suppressing package > recommendations). > > ¹ In this context, "complex" desktop environments include GNOME, KDE, > Cinnamon, MATE and more - as a rule of thumb anything which directly > or indirectly recommends dbus-user-session. Kind regards - Jonas -- * Jonas Smedegaard - idealist & Internet-arkitekt * Tlf.: +45 40843136 Website: http://dr.jones.dk/ [x] quote me freely [ ] ask before reusing [ ] keep private
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