On Sat, Dec 07, 2019 at 04:24:33PM -0700, Charles Curley wrote: > On Sat, 07 Dec 2019 19:20:09 +0100 > Hans <hans.ullrich@loop.de> wrote: > > > maybe owncloud or nextcloud are interesting options for you. As the > > name says: Your own cloud. > > Thank you for recommending those before I did. I run nextcloud here, > and prefer it over owncloud. It seems to have advanced considerably > over owncloud since the nextcloud was forked from owncloud. FWIW, over this side of the pond there are for-pay providers who offer nextcloud services (e.g. mailbox.org, 1 EUR/month, e-mail plus nextcloud, you can even pay cash, so max anonymity; uberspace, pay what you want (they recommend 5 EUR/month to cover costs -- web site but also nextcloud and friends). One example for the other side of the pond is riseup.net -- but they don't offer nextcloud, afaik; mail, mailing lists, wikis, pastebin, off the top of my head. There are more and more small businesses with interesting approaches and perhaps other leading principles than squeezing the last drop out of their customers. They never become big -- investor capital usually goes elsewhere, but they are there, and often manage to be sustainable, so keep your eyes open. Cheers -- tomás
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