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Re: Replace systemd



	Hi.

On Thu, Jul 06, 2017 at 12:53:29PM +0200, Erwan David wrote:
> Le 07/03/17 à 22:48, Dejan Jocic a écrit :
> > 
> > You can still use Debian without systemd as init. Explained here:
> > 
> > https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2017/05/msg00538.html
> > 
> > If you would prefer that it is some derivate/fork of Debian without
> > systemd, I do not have personal experience with those, but I'm sure that
> > you will get few hints.
> > 
> init is a small part of systemd. And judging y the bug reported and how
> they are treated, I do not trust any part of it.
> Neither resolved, logind, etc...

So you do not trust udev as well?


> Too many critical bugs found in them and treated by the upstream
> developpers with only contempt for the people reporting them
> (see https://github.com/systemd/systemd/issues/6237#issuecomment-312458445)

By that logic (in)famous libc bug 4980 shoud've stopped by from using
any sane Linux distribution 10 years ago. Did it?


> This behaviour on a critical component is mere madness.

OpenBSD folks beg to differ.

https://marc.info/?l=openbsd-tech&m=149902196520920&w=2


> And it is NOT possible to use debian without any part of systemd.

Indeed it is. It is not possible to use Debian without udev. Everything
else is optional though.

Reco


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