Re: [Stretch] apt-get has no updates?
On Wed 05 Jul 2017 at 08:09:58 (-0400), RavenLX wrote:
> On 07/01/2017 12:39 PM, David Wright wrote:
> >On Fri 30 Jun 2017 at 22:46:35 (+0200), Dejan Jocic wrote:
> >>On 30-06-17, David Wright wrote:
> >>>
> >>>I'm not sure what this is all about; unattended-upgrades appears
> >>>to have been maintained by the same person since the days of etch,
> >>>a decade ago. What constitutes an advertisement, and how is the
> >>>question posed as to whether updates are automatic or not?
> >>>
> >>>Cheers,
> >>>David.
> >>>
> >>
> >>Probably because unattended-upgrades were not pulled in before
> >>automatically on install of Debian. In Stretch, through some added
> >>recommends, they are installed by default on at least Gnome and KDE
> >>tasks.
> >
> >My points were aimed at two sections: "how did this got to stable
> >without really being advertised properly through those running
> >testing. I was under the impression that for anything other than
> >security-bug-fixes everything goes through the unstable and testing
> >first. This seems as something that appeared behind us."
> >and
> >"An update of apt/synaptics/aptitude could have included
> >the option to consciously choose between auto or manual updates."
> >
> >Neither of those have been addressed.
Still not clear.
> >But on your point of what's pulled in automatically by accepting
> >recommendations, I can't see a great difference between jessie and
> >stretch; either of task-gnome-desktop or task-kde-desktop
> >appears to install unattended-upgrades by virtue of the chains
> >of dependencies/recommendations below.
>
> [snip]
>
> There's this one difference in my system. In Jessie I was using XFCE
> for my desktop. Now in Stretch, I decided to go with KDE.
… and I think my chain of dependencies may have included Suggests,
which is weaker then Recommends. IIRC with apt-get you have to opt
into Suggests whereas you opt out of Recommends. I don't know the
situation with higher level package frontends.
Cheers,
David.
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