On 03/23/2017 05:18 PM, Catherine Gramze wrote:
[ *SNIP* ] A complete Debian dvd set does NOT solve the unrecognized network problem; only the unofficial iso downloads that include the non-free firmware do. The same issue was present the last time I used a complete 12 dvd set, which was years ago. We need to do all we can, within the limits of the Debian commitment to FOSS, to make Debian easier to install, not harder. If anybody must be inconvenienced, make it theusers best equipped to work around it.
I suspect that statement is factually incorrect. I've been using *ONLY* multi-DVD sets to install Debian [since Squeeze]. Who would want to install something the size of Debian via dial-up? My machines had recognized hardware, but nothing to connect to.Also my latest Jessie was on a new {to me ;} Lenovo T510. Its WiFi chip set is not supported and I'm give the option to obtain the non-free driver required or to proceed without. By analogy I would assume the same logic is in the network discovery process. Especially since I can opt out of the network discovery process by pressing "Enter" a half dozen times which then asks I wish to proceed without network access.
I may download the netinst *image* [ CD v. DVD is specious, only way to do it is a netinst flash drive ;]. It might be just the ticket for some of my minimalist experiments.