Re: Unattended upgrades.
Thank you for your further response. I have tried to answer your questions,
which will show you that I am completely at sea.
On Thursday 23 March 2017 09:03:01 didier gaumet wrote:
> Le 23/03/2017 à 02:06, Lisi Reisz a écrit :
> > Thank you. Yes, I have read and tried to follow it. I quote:
> > ---------
> > To install these packages, run the following command as root:
> >
> > # apt-get install unattended-upgrades apt-listchanges
> > The default configuration file for the unattended-upgrades package is
> > at /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/50unattended-upgrades. The defaults will work
> > fine, but you should read it and make changes as needed.
> >
> > # editor /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/50unattended-upgrades
> > ---------
> >
> > It clearly says that the defaults will work fine. They don't. They
> > don't seem to work at all, in fact most of the files don't seem to be
> > there.
>
> I don't really understand: what files are not there that should be there?
Let's start with the file you mention: /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/20auto-upgrades
It isn't there.
> > I have tried to read and follow the whole thing. I have googled for
> > other things. I have got no-where. So any more useful pointers would be
> > greatly welcomed.
>
> the part of the procedure you quoted is the installation of
> unattended-upgrades: you can verify that unattended-upgrades is working
> the way you want simply by running it as root in console.
lisi@Eros:~$ su
Password:
root@Eros:/home/lisi# unattended-upgrades
root@Eros:/home/lisi#
What has that done? I can verify nothing because I can't see what it has or
has not done. It took a long while doing it, but appears to have dome
nothing.
> this part of
> the procedure does not automatize anything, so if you do not run
> yourself unattended-upgrades you may have the false impression that it
> is not working.
If I have to run it myself, then it isn't working. The whole point, from my
point of view, is for it to work unattended.
> did you follow the rest of the procedure, and which part, in order to
> automatize the execution of unattended-upgrades? what is the content of
> /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/20auto-upgrades ?
I have clearly completely misunderstood what unattended-upgrades is intended
to do. If it won't work automatically but requires me to run it, in what
sense is it unattended? It said that it runs by default. I have obviously
misunderstood what "run" means in this context.
As I said above, /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/20auto-upgrades doesn't exist.
> also, I seem to remember that the default set-up for unattended-upgrades
> is upgrading only security issues for the stable channel.
That is what I have been trying unsuccessfully to achieve. If the defaults
work fine, then what are they doing? If I need to run it, in what way is it
any different from or preferable to any other method of running upgrades?
> If you want
> something like proposed updates or follow testing or unstable channels,
> you have to alter the default set-up
So, to summarise, it is my expectations that are at fault.
Unattended-upgrades does not by default run unattended. One has to set up a
cron job or something.
Having been reading the file /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/50unattended-upgrades, which
does exist, I have come to the conclusion that sadly this is all well above
my pay-grade anyway.
Lisi
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