Re: [TEST RUNS] Re: installer defaults for desktops (was Re: Suggested edit)
On Wednesday 22 March 2017 17:26:56 Richard Owlett wrote:
> On 03/22/2017 10:33 AM, Lisi Reisz wrote:
> > On Wednesday 22 March 2017 14:53:24 Richard Owlett wrote:
> >> On 03/22/2017 09:28 AM, Lisi Reisz wrote:
> >>> On Wednesday 22 March 2017 14:05:28 Richard Owlett wrote:
> >>>> The results of the 6 installs I intended to run:
> >>>> [the only variable being which DE related boxes checked]
> >>>> [space used reported by gparted]
> >>>> 1. None
> >>>> CLI installed taking ~.92 GB
> >>>> 2. Only top entry checked (asking for unspecified desktop)
> >>>> Gnome installed taking ~3.59 GB
> >>>> 3. Top entry *and* Gnome checked
> >>>> Gnome installed taking ~3.59 GB
> >>>> 4. Top entry *and* MATE checked
> >>>> MATE installed taking ~2.65 GB
> >>>> 5. Gnome only checked
> >>>> Gnome installed taking ~3.59 GB
> >>>> 6. MATE only checked
> >>>> MATE installed taking ~2.65 GB
> >>>> Tests 1-6 were run were run from a flash drive copy of DVD1.
> >>>
> >>> Thanks, Richard. And are you able to confirm that, by default, the top
> >>> entry is checked, and you have to uncheck it to achieve option 1?
> >>
> >> That is correct.
> >>
> >> HOWEVER that line of thought is why I included my 1st paragraph on the
> >> "educational" problems encountered.
> >> <quote>
> >> My "educational" failure was in attempting to create a preseed.cfg file
> >> so the tests would require minimal hands on attention. I wanted the
> >> tasksel screen to appear. I did not succeed. Instead the installer went
> >> on its merry way installing Gnome in ~3.67 (not the ~3.59 GB of other
> >> runs). <end quote>
> >>
> >> I've never used netinst and don't know if my failed preseed.cfg might
> >> resemble it.
> >
> > Thank you. I prefer facts to alternative facts or guesses! I must play
> > around with net install when I have got both time and a suitable
> > platform!
> >
> > In all this talk of Debian being the universal operating system, and
> > helping newbies, no mention has been made of the Live CD installation
> > method, which I should have though was ideal for those who want their
> > hands held. That perception may be false, but is why I barely go near
> > it! I use Knoppix when I want a Live CD and the net install disk when I
> > want to install Debian.
>
> I had a "Live 8.6 MATE" DVD next to me.
> I had a minor glitch and a possibly significant problem.
> The minor glitch was when launching the installer it needed a password.
> Having seen that problem reported before, entering "live" got it going.
>
> The possibly significant problem was inability to install grub.
> I say "possibly significant" because my test machine and installation
> routines have a few oddities.
>
> I manually partitioned *AND* defeated using a swap partition as it would
> have changed the UUID of my swap partition thus messing up my exiting
> installs (have 3 active at the moment).
>
> Not installing grub was no problem for me as I don't install it anyway,
> choosing to run update-grub under control of the install on /dev/sda1.
Interesting. I wonder whether that would apply to all the mainstream Live
CDs, or just the Mate one? I think they may be very individual. I know the
Trinity unofficial one was, until it became the Devuan one anyway. But it
installed OK, ran well both live and installed, and told you what password to
use in the accompanying documentation.
Now that I think one could criticise, since it should actually run. If Martin
Wimpress ever actually turns up to a meeting, instead of saying that he is
hoping to come, I shall tell him so!!
Thanks again.
Lisi
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