Re: no response from listmaster
On Monday 14 December 2015 02:46:43 Steve Kleene wrote:
> On 2015-12-13 20:01:35 GMT, Brian <ad44 <at> cityscape.co.uk> wrote:
> > On Sun 13 Dec 2015 at 18:57:31 +0000, Steve Kleene wrote:
> > > > On Sunday 13 December 2015 17:18:32 Steve Kleene wrote:
> > > > > My address (skdeb <at> syrano.acb.uc.edu) has been unsubscribed
> > > > > from the debian-user mailing list. I understand why. I took the
> > > > > address
>
> down for a
>
> > > > > few days for reasons that are now irrelevant (but can be related if
>
> anyone
>
> > > > > cares). Because mails from lists.debian.org were bouncing, they
> > > > > unsubscribed me. A note from listmaster <at> lists.debian.org on
>
> Dec 8 notified
>
> > > > > me of this and said, "You are welcome to contact us". I wrote to
> > > > > that address twice (Dec 8 and 9). The mails were not returned to
> > > > > me; I have received no response; and I'm still unsubscribed.
> > > > >
> > > > > Do any of you know of another administrator or ombudsman who might
>
> actually
>
> > > > > respond? Thanks.
> > >
> > > On Sun Dec 13 12:29:31 2015, Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz <at> gmail.com>
replied:
> > > > Why not just resubscribe - much simpler.
> > >
> > > Thanks, but that's a whole can of worms I had hoped (in vain) not to
> > > reopen. Last month I did a thread ("problem e-mailing debian groups")
> > > on that
>
> and was
>
> > > unable to find a solution. My e-mails to debian-user <at>
>
> lists.debian.org and
>
> > > debian-admin <at> lists.debian.org DO bounce, apparently because my
> > > employer mishandles sender callback verification. (Having said that, I
> > > don't understand why no one but lists.debian.org bounces my e-mails.)
> > > My employer only wants to support Microsoft Outlook or Exchange and
> > > wishes I didn't
>
> run a
>
> > > mail server at all. So I'm on my own.
> >
> > Would you please be clearer here as to your setup.
> >
> > You are running a mail server anad are using it to send mail.
> >
> > Does this mail
> >
> > a) go through one of your employer's mail servers
> >
> > or
> >
> > b) do you send mails directly ?
>
> I am running mailto/sendmail from the command line, configured locally by
> /etc/sendmail/sendmail.cf. This file includes:
>
> DSsmtp.uc.edu
>
> This sets my employer's server smtp.uc.edu as SMART_HOST. I did not route
> through that server until 2006. At that point an organization across the
> street began refusing emails because my IP was seen as dynamic. I had to
> route through smtp.uc.edu to get around that. I haven't tried lately to go
> back to the pre-2006 system. I do have one machine with a fixed IP. On my
> desk machine I masquerade to the fixed IP, but apparently e-mails from the
> desk machine were detected as dynamic IP before the header was even
> checked.
>
> Thanks for the reply.
Could you route through another SMTP server just for the list, or just to
subscribe to the list? Does all your mail have to go through the same SMTP
server always? I ask because I use a different one if this one causes
problems, as it occasionally does.
Lisi
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