Re: to be rude or not (was: YAGF is a seriously screwed package)
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On Fri, Jul 10, 2015 at 09:42:48AM -0400, The Wanderer wrote:
> On 07/10/2015 at 08:52 AM, tomas@tuxteam.de wrote:
[...]
> From my perspective, jumping so harshly on a single use of a
> superficially masculine-only term which was not even directed
> specifically at her as being actively "rude" _does_ look like an
> aggressive, socially "militant" thing to do. That reaction seems at
> least as rude, to me, as the original greeting can have seemed to her.
Here, I don't completely agree.
> It would probably have been at least as effective, and have avoided the
> derail and this discussion of rudeness vs. counter-rudeness, to have had
> a comment like "(Gentle hint: Not all of us here are male. You might
> want to say something like 'Sirs and/or madams' in the future."), and to
> have followed it up by being as helpful as possible (which, given the
> limited available information, may admittedly not have been very much)
> in the rest of the E-mail.
Here I agree more.
> (This isn't even getting into the question of whether or not usages such
> as the one being objected to _are_ rude, or - to phrase the same thing
> differently - can legitimately be called rude. I appear to disagree
> strongly with Lisi's apparent position on that question, but I don't
> really feel like investing energy in an argument on the subject, and
> this would definitely not be the place for it even if I did...)
Here I tend to agree with Lisi.
Folks, sorry, I'm out. I have to run for the train and will be off the
'net for one month (yeah, that sounds like a lame excuse, but it really
ain't one :-)
Take care
- -- tomás
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