Re: Change systemd to not be default in Stretch
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On Mon, Jun 22, 2015 at 09:09:00PM +0200, Erwan David wrote:
> On Mon, Jun 22, 2015 at 08:31:55PM CEST, Martin Read <zen75502@zen.co.uk> said:
> > On 22/06/15 18:26, Zebediah C. McClure wrote:
> > >What is the correct way to work towards not having systemd be installed by
> > >default in stretch?
> >
> > That depends on your goal.
> >
> > If your goal is to have a dpkg-based Linux distribution which leverages the
> > good work done in Debian and does not use systemd as the init daemon, you
> > might do well to consider contributing to the Devuan project whichever of
> > money, labour, or cheerleading is most mutually congenial.
> >
> > If your goal is for something other than systemd to be the default "init
> > system" of Debian stretch, then *well* before stretch enters freeze, you
> > need to have contributed to Debian a system initialization and service
> > management system that over 50% of active Debian Developers think is an
> > adequate *replacement* for systemd.
>
> I have a stretch with only parts of systemd and settings that I do not
> know how to replicate in systemd: How do I do ?
There you go:
http://debian.distrosfaqs.org/debian-user/preseeding-disable-systemd/feed/
This one quite good, albeit (partially) in German. Do ask here, we
might help:
http://noone.org/talks/debian-ohne-systemd/
This page is a huge collection. I don't particularly like its
tone, but there you go:
http://without-systemd.org/wiki/index.php/Main_Page
There are a couple of blog posts out there, I remember one by Erich
Schubert <http://www.vitavonni.de>, who decided to take it down
due to too much hate mail *by systemd opponents*, no less! (yes, you
might delve in conspiracy theories and things, but *come on*).
ISTR there was another good (was it Steinar Gunderson?) but I can't
find it.
> Where so I find docs and tutorials to migrate ? Where can I discuss
> the problems (no here is not the place).
As far as I know systemd (and the whole suite) is extensively documented.
Every program has man pages. I'm sure there is Debian-specific info in
the Administration Guide.
There is a "Systemd for Administrators" by Lennart Poettering, I'm
sure you can find it with the help of your favorite search engine.
There may be many reasons to not like systemd (and I don't like it):
lack of documentation isn't one, for sure.
> WHEN WILL THOSE SIMPLE QUESTION FOR A NEW SOFTWARE GET AN ANSWER ?
They are out there. Come back if you have more questions.
Regards
- -- tomás
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