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Re: Systemd files on a Raspberry Pi



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On Tue, Jun 23, 2015 at 02:00:06AM +1000, Andrew McGlashan wrote:
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> On 23/06/2015 12:31 AM, tomas@tuxteam.de wrote:
> > But please, please: don't pour hate on people writing free
> > software. This is not helping anyone (well, it is helping those not
> > wanting free software to succeed!).
> 
> Unfortunately it's not that simple tomás ... not that simple at all.

It *is* so simple (see below).

> Those that chose to go down the systemd path have created all sorts of
> grief and a hell of a lot more work for those that don't want anything
> to do with systemd and it's overreach in to other areas.  So much so,
> that I don't consider Debian to be Debian any more and that is very
> sad in itself.

My take is: I am a fan of Debian. I don't want systemd on "my" computer.
Systemd is the default, and their proponents are no idiots and I assume
good intentions. I accept that their viewpoint is as valid as mine.

So it is (in part) on me to keep Debian without systemd a viable option.

There are many dependencies on systemd (e.g. Gnome) which aren't Debian's
fault. No problem for me, since I don't particularly care for Gnome, but
perhaps there are other needs.

As I see it, there are quite smart people on both sides of the debate
and it seems best to try to get along instead of slinging accusations
at each other (both sides have been very effective at that, and
sadly, I'm not innocent in this either. I regret that).

Let's just roll up our sleeves, drop the insults (and ignore those).

regards
- -- tomás
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