Re: systemd-free alternatives are not off topic.
On Mon, Nov 24, 2014 at 05:25:58AM CET, Ric Moore <wayward4now@gmail.com> said:
> On 11/23/2014 09:20 PM, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
> >On 11/23/2014 8:42 PM, Ric Moore wrote:
> >>On 11/23/2014 12:17 PM, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
> >> That is the huge majority of Debian users.
> >>>Some will get a rude surprise when they upgrade and things don't work as
> >>>expected.
> >>
> >>Like what?? I first installed systemd back when it was announced. I have
> >>yet to have a single problem with it.
> >>
> >
> >What about all of those people with custom software running which relies
> >on sysv init for starting? There are a lot of those systems out there -
> >and every one of them will need work to conform to systemd. Many of
> >those users will find it less time consuming and costly to change to
> >another distro. It can be very expensive to bring someone up to speed
> >on the systemd, then change and test all of their custom software (or
> >pay a consultant to do it for you).
> >
> >>>Many will be able to fix those problems - but at a cost of time and
> >>>manpower. Others will have neither the time nor the money to fix the
> >>>problems, and still others will not have the technical expertise to do
> >>>so.
> >>
> >>And yet the Linux community continues to lurch from pillar to post, as
> >>always, surviving by our collective wits. That is our strength. That
> >>part you just don't seem to appreciate, that nothing is ever static and
> >>that change that is inherent within our little meritocracy and is our
> >>greatness.
> >>
> >
> >Yes, and while the Linux community continues, Debian will lose a lot of
> >dedicated users due to this decision. Possibly another fork, or
> >possibly another distro. But Debian will lose users.
>
>
> How will Debian lose users? Debian is one of the LAST distros to adopt
> systemd. Wheezy is good for another couple of years and it's still running
> systemv. You're not suggesting that your user base will run Jessie anytime
> soon?
There are alternatives in BSD.
And since the systelmd team REFUSES to produce migration doc...
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