On Sun, Nov 09, 2014 at 05:38:59PM +1100, Andrew McGlashan wrote: > What part of "we don't want systemd on any of our systems" don't you > get? If we don't want it, we won't be testing it. There's still plenty of work to be done testing upgrade paths for sysvinit; improving systemd-shim; patching d-i so that you can preseed a systemd-free install; no shortage of places to constructively apply yourself.