In Poettering's own words: was question about systemd
On Sat, 11 Oct 2014 22:58:18 +0200
Peter Nieman <gmane-acct@t-online.de> wrote:
> Didn't Mr. Poettering make it sufficiently clear in numerous speeches
> that the ultimate goal of the systemd people was to create an
> entirely new OS? Just listen to the first two minutes of the first
> youtube video you get when searching for his name:
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LdRmnSHHVw4
Breathtaking!
At timestamp 0:51 he says that systemd is now more than just an init
system, it's a set of building blocks to build an operating system.
Nowhere does he say that if you accept any of those tools, you need to
throw away several tools you've been using, or that if you use certain
systemd tools, you need to install many of them. He glosses over the
"in for a penny, in for a pound" nature of systemd. It's not a set of
a-la-carte building blocks, it's a huge meal.
At timestamp 1:35, he says that systemd "feels more like a real
operating system". Amazing: here I thought that I *had* been using a
real operating system since I installed Linux in 1998. We should
rejoice that, after almost a couple decades, Debian is now, finally, a
*real* operating system!
At 2:20, he states that "we believed the operating system design isn't
the right design to have." Then why the hell are they still calling
what they're moving to Linux? And what, we've been using the wrong
operating system all these years?
At 2:45 he says that you tell systemd what the dependencies of things
are, and systemd figures out at boot time what to do. Hey, couldn't
that be done with a make file, with a whole less code and fanfare? LOL,
make boot.
7:19 he says that Debian's in the process of deciding whether Debian
should switch to it. And at 8:06 he said Cannonical really hates
systemd. So when the CTTE chose systemd, that's the only thing that
brought Ubuntu on board, and all resistance was gone. Nice! Thanks
guys. It appears that because of that vote, the Linux of the future
will be a totally different operating system, and I'll have *very*
limited choices if I happen to like the real Linux, instead of the Red
Hat fork.
How anybody familiar with this interview could have included systemd as
an option, let alone the default, is beyond my comprehension. Several
months ago somebody referred to systemd as Embrace, Extend, Extinquish,
and at the time I thought he was over the top. But that's basically
exactly what Poettering says in this 9:31 interview.
Everybody should view this video!
SteveT
Steve Litt * http://www.troubleshooters.com/
Troubleshooting Training * Human Performance
Reply to: