Re: Debian nolonger claims to be the "Universal Operating System"
On 04/10/14 17:07, Steve Litt wrote:
> On Sat, 04 Oct 2014 12:31:43 +0100
> Tony van der Hoff <tony@vanderhoff.org> wrote:
>
>> On 04/10/14 12:14, Lisi Reisz wrote:
>>> On Saturday 04 October 2014 11:44:43 Tom Collins wrote:
>>>> Worthless trash. They need to be stopped, deposed.
>>>
>>> This sort of thing makes me so angry. Is "Tom Collins" "Gregory
>>> Smith" by another name?
>>>
>>> Please, ban anyone whose "discussion" descends to this low level.
>>
>> It's probably best to just ignore/killfile these trolls, Lisi. They
>> revelin the attention they get.
>
> You know, Tony's right (in every respect except characterizing
> anti-systemd people as trolls). If you really can't stand their
> messages, why in the WORLD would you subject yourself to their posts?
> Why you don't redirect my email to /dev/null is a mystery to me.
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> I think we can all admit it, Debian-User is a rather mean, rude list.
> Within one or two replies, the discussion is on the poster's
> personality, not on what he/she is saying. The first thing I did when I
> got here was redirect about ten people to /dev/null. That was the only
> way I could have stayed here.
>
> If your true desire were to hear nothing more about systemd, you could
> simply killfile me, both Joels, Jerry, lee, Reco, Gregory, and maybe 10
> more people, and your hearing about systemd would decrease by a factor
> of four. Additionally, your continuing protestations couldn't be used as
> a recruiting tool for the anti-systemd folks.
>
> But nooooooooooo!
>
> What am I missing?
What you are missing is that it's not the anti-systemd sentiment that we
object to, but the way it's put across.
You are perfectly entitled to your opinion, but to repeat it ad nauseam
in the hope that you will eventually convince the doubters is not only
counterproductive, it reeks of proselytizing.
Further, the use of language that's not acceptable in a mixed society,
or outbursts of hatred is further reason to object.
These people, not the anti-systemd advocates, ARE trolls, and are best
ignored.
You yourself have in the past fallen prey to repetition, which you have
mostly given up.
Personally, I'm quite interested to learn about systemd, but from a
rational, technical, discussion, not a rant. Unfortunately, the
rationality seems to be sadly lacking from the antis, giving the
impression that they have nothing sensible to say. The (very few)
pro-systemd posts have only been sensible. Their rarity suggests that
the proponents have better things to do with their time.
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