Re: Challenge to you: Voice your concerns regarding systemd upstream
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On 09/28/2014 at 05:34 AM, Martin Steigerwald wrote:
> It may also be true that systemd upstream won´t be willing to
> implement the change you want to see. But if you choose to keep
> your power with yourself, instead of giving it to others, you are
> still powerful, even in that case. An there are other options to
> create change.
>
> I also still believe that if systemd developers did completely off
> the limits think, they would quickly be forked.
The trouble with that is that some (many?) people think they already
*have* done completely off-limits things, and yet many other people are
arguing that those things are not completely off-limits, and/or that
their benefits outweigh that beyond-the-pale status.
As I've said from fairly early on (on debian-devel, not here), there are
fundamental philosophical differences about software design between the
sides here - under and below any differences in what
currently-manifesting practical behaviors each side does or does not
consider a problem.
(Those differences go beyond just "people who object to systemd" vs.
"the systemd developers, by the way. They also extend to "people who
object to systemd" vs. "people who think there's nothing wrong with
systemd", and/or "people who may see things wrong with systemd, but
don't think there's anything wrong with its being (made the default /
installed automatically)", et cetera.)
- --
The Wanderer
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one
persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore all
progress depends on the unreasonable man. -- George Bernard Shaw
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