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Re: There is no choice ...well yes there is



On 09/22/2014 01:56 PM, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote:
On Mon, Sep 22, 2014 at 06:22:05AM -0400, Ric Moore wrote:

It's just the way they went to go. I have had zero problems with it,
as a mere user. I did my part by installing Jessie fresh, so I
wouldn't be part of the noisy problems on this list with left over
old cruft competing for attention. My reward was a very well running
install, that apparently was well crafted by some very talented
people.


If it's any consolation:

I've just run a dist-upgrade on a running Debian wheezy system.

For various reasons, I didn't want to wipe the existing configuration of
network, firewall settings etc. so didn't do a complete clean install
with Jessie Beta 1 media.

I managed to break it: my fault, by rebooting part way through the upgrade.
This resulted in a dead system because it was still trying to boot with a
kernel that was no longer obviously there in place.

Rebooting with a Wheezy netinst .iso on USB and chrooting into the part finished
install allowed me to run

	update-grub

which fixed the problem. Result: a running system, running Jessie well and booting
quickly. This done well in advance of November's freeze to give me some idea before
I update other machines.

It woun't kill any detractors to try this and help us find what breaks, to help
us to get a Debian system we can all be proud of instead of talking up a storm
to complain about things. Experience may also allow us to support alternatives
where feasible.

It all just works. Since I paid nothing, I certainly got much more
than my money's worth. I fail to see where we should jerk on their
chains to demand more of their time by hanging here as well, like we
have some right to demand any thing. That just comes off as
presumptuous.

Keep in mind they have the freedom to walk off this non-paying gig
and to tell us all to go pound sand.


Thanks for the confirmation that someone else got systemd to work

I think you and I experienced the very same thing. It halted during the "upgrade" process, refused to continue, so I rebooted to find a kernel-less system. It took well over a day to finally recover to the point that I could issue update-grub and finally reboot to something that looked like a working system. I wore dpkg out.

Later, amid hiccups and burps in the barrel, I got the install DVD and re-installed. Nary a blip. It helped previously that I had Ubuntu installed to another partition to grab missing packages that didn't make it initially. Without networking, you do not proceed to Go. So, I do not recommend the upgrade process from Wheezy to Jessie as a general rule. And certainly not on a system with only Debian installed. If nothing else, already have the Jessie install DVD handy in case of abject failure as a plan 'B'. :) Ric



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My father, Victor Moore (Vic) used to say:
"There are two Great Sins in the world...
..the Sin of Ignorance, and the Sin of Stupidity.
Only the former may be overcome." R.I.P. Dad.
Linux user# 44256


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