On 08/09/14 15:51, lee wrote:
If the problem is so easy to solve as you describe, i. e. by compiling software appropriately, it boils down to that Debian would have to have different versions of packages, compiled with appropriate options, which are picked from depending on which init system the user decides to use.
It's obvious that the rewards to you of Debian doing this outweigh the costs to you of Debian doing this, since it's obvious that you place a high value on the thing you're asking for, and it's not externally obvious that you'd incur any of the costs associated with making it happen.
It's not entirely clear that the rewards to Debian of the action you request outweigh the costs of that action to the people whose labour and funding make Debian happen.
It's a tricky question, with no easy answers.
In any case, simply trying to avoid systemd wouldn't do anything to fix the problem. It is the developers of systemd and the makers of distributions who need to wake up and to do something about it, and they are the ones who appear to steadfastly remain ignorant.
Real people think systemd provides real solutions to real problems that they have on their real systems. This means that "Here's how to solve the problems that systemd solved for you *more easily and more effectively* without using any systemd components" is a more compelling argument against systemd than suggesting that everyone who supports systemd is stuevilpid.