Re: brasero requires gvfs
Sven Joachim <svenjoac@gmx.de> writes:
> On 2014-09-07 02:30 +0200, lee wrote:
>
>> Slavko <linux@slavino.sk> writes:
>>
>>> Ahoj,
>>>
>>> Dňa Sat, 06 Sep 2014 02:08:47 +0200 lee <lee@yun.yagibdah.de> napísal:
>>>
>>>> Doug <dmcgarrett@optonline.net> writes:
>>>>
>>>> > It didn't need systemd before, so why should it need it now?
>>>>
>>>> Debian has decided to feature several init systems, so any dependency
>>>> on an init system you're not using because you're using another one
>>>> is a bug that needs to be reported and fixed.
>>>>
>>>
>>> I see it in the same manner, and then i agree with you. I see there
>>> some questions which need to be answered:
>>
>> I don't think they will fix the bug because:
>>
>>
>> [~] aptitude why libsystemd-login0
>> i xfce4 Depends xfconf (>= 4.8.0)
>> i A xfconf Depends dbus-x11
>> i A dbus-x11 Depends dbus
>> i A dbus Depends libsystemd-login0 (>= 31)
>> [~]
>>
>>
>> They must fix dbus to be able to work without systemd first. So I guess
>> we need to make a bug report against dbus because it must not depend on
>> systemd for Debian to be able to support alternative init systems so
>> that users aren't forced into systemd.
>
> Dbus depends on libsystemd-login0, not on systemd. It forces you to use
> systemd as much as its dependency on libselinux1 forces you to turn on
> selinux, i.e. not at all.
It forces you not to be able to keep your system free from systemd.
>> The concept of free software has become a myth :(
>
> There is always Gentoo if libraries you consider useless bother you.
> Binary distributions tend to enable all possibly useful features.
How long will you be able to keep a Gentoo installation free from
systemd?
Supporting a variety of init systems cannot mean that features which
have nothing to do with any of the init systems are simply disabled
unless a particular one is used.
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