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Re: I'm not a huge fan of systemd



On Sun, Jul 13, 2014 at 09:44:20AM -0400, Tom H wrote:
> On Sat, Jul 12, 2014 at 11:26 AM, Miles Fidelman
> <mfidelman@meetinghouse.net> wrote:
> > Tom H wrote:
> >> On Fri, Jul 11, 2014 at 1:21 PM, Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> wrote:
> >>> On Fri 11 Jul 2014 at 12:21:57 -0400, Steve Litt wrote:
> 
> 
> >>>> A bizarre thought just popped into my head, in the form of a little
> >>>> voice. The little voice told me that if they guys who controlled the
> >>>> decision to go to systemd had been the decision makers in 1990, Linux
> >>>> would have a microkernel today.
> >>>
> >>> This thread has been quite interesting. In it a number concerns about
> >>> system have been comprehensively answered.
> >>>
> >>> * Double-forking is not a problem.
> >>> * Logs are in text format.
> >>> * libsystemd-daemon0 doesn't affect users of other init systems.
> >>>
> >>> All useful stuff and (given the lack of substantial counter-argument)
> >>> cause for regarding these questions as settled.
> >>
> >> The s/n ratio would be higher in threads such as these if people read
> >> the documentation...
> >>
> > Now that is a rather gratuitous and disingenuous statement.
> 
> It's neither gratuitous nor disingenious. There's a pattern of someone
> finding that something doesn't work the way that someone expects and
> rather than going through the documentation or google first, there's a
> post here with a more or less gleeful "I've found something broken in
> systemd."

The posts I've made were made because the issues I struck after
installing systemd-sysv could happen to others in the future and whether
it is a "teething bug" or an issue with systemd configuration at least
there is a mention of it in the archives. 

Also, it is probably a good idea to get any concerns "out in the open"
*before* Jessie becomes stable. There may be an issue that has been
overlooked. e.g. for me the keyboard repeat rate slowed right down, and
when I ggogled it I found that others have found that their's sped up. I
have to use the kbdrate command to fix it.

There are some differences between the way Debian has adopted systemd
and the way upstream documents it, so it I think if there are any
concerns about this then it is a good idea to raise the issue here.

-- 
"If you're not careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people
who are being oppressed, and loving the people who are doing the 
oppressing." --- Malcolm X


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