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debian-user-digest Digest Volume 2014 : Issue 435
Today's Topics:
Re: Cropping a large collection of . [ Andrei POPESCU <andreimpopescu@gmai ]
Re: is there a risk to program in ja [ Kevin Price <keyvin@crazycoder.us> ]
BD-R and wheezy [ Kevin Price <keyvin@crazycoder.us> ]
Problem installing [ Michael Torres <mrmojorisen0@gmail. ]
/var/cache/man/... [ Mike McClain <mike.junk@nethere.com ]
Re: /var/cache/man/... [ Scott Ferguson <scott.ferguson.debi ]
Re: BD-R and wheezy [ Kevin Price <keyvin@crazycoder.us> ]
Re: BD-R and wheezy [ Scott Ferguson <scott.ferguson.debi ]
Re: /var/cache/man/... [ Doug <dmcgarrett@optonline.net> ]
Re: BD-R and wheezy [ Mark Neyhart <Mark.Neyhart@akleg.go ]
Re: /var/cache/man/... [ Scott Ferguson <scott.ferguson.debi ]
Must run pulseaudio as root to get s [ Kyle Bentley <kwbent@uab.edu> ]
Re: Cropping a large collection of . [ Chris Bannister <cbannister@slingsh ]
Re: /var/cache/man/... [ Doug <dmcgarrett@optonline.net> ]
=?iso-8859-2?Q?Mamy_dla_Ciebie_szybk [ "Mariusz Kalinowski" <biuro@gotowka ]
Re: Must run pulseaudio as root to g [ Patrick Bartek <bartek047@yahoo.com ]
Re: Problem installing [ Andrei POPESCU <andreimpopescu@gmai ]
Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2014 00:43:45 +0300
From: Andrei POPESCU <andreimpopescu@gmail.com>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: Cropping a large collection of .PNG screenshots
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On Mi, 09 apr 14, 08:59:51, Steve Litt wrote:
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> Or, you can just redirect ls into a file, use Vim to convert and rename
> each file individually.
Could you please elaborate on this?
Kind regards,
Andrei
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Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2014 17:52:37 -0400
From: Kevin Price <keyvin@crazycoder.us>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: is there a risk to program in java since sun is bought by oracle
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No, there are several open implementations of the jdk, java is the recommended language for Android, and oracle has continued to support java well. Maybe someone knows something that I don't, but it seems like you should hack in the language you like best.
On Wed, Apr 09, 2014 at 09:31:49PM +0100, abdelkader belahcene wrote:
> is there a risk to program in java since sun is bought by oracle ?
Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2014 18:32:01 -0400
From: Kevin Price <keyvin@crazycoder.us>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: BD-R and wheezy
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Is there an easy way to burn BD-R on wheezy? I met a guy at a LUG that wanted to try linux but he lives out in the middle of nowhere and has 56k. Since I have cable, I downloaded the Blu Ray images using jigdo. I am having a lot of trouble burning them to disk. I tried basero, but that gives the error that the disk isn't supported. Is there a way to get this working?
Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2014 18:16:14 -0400
From: Michael Torres <mrmojorisen0@gmail.com>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Problem installing
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I am trying to boot using a live cd using a macbook pro. I downloaded =
the amd64 version because i have a for i7 processor. when it boots, the =
screen turns black and only a small line is visible. why is this, and =
how can i fix it?=
Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2014 08:44:12 -0700
From: Mike McClain <mike.junk@nethere.com>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: /var/cache/man/...
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The other day I noticed my computer clutteres up with many directories
in /var/cache/man/ for languages I don't speak so I deleted them.
Today they're back but I can't tell how they got there. Nothing in
/etc/cron/* says anything about recreating them. I assume mandb did it
but can't tell what initiated the recreation of all these directories.
Nor can I see any need, I don't imagine very many people speak all of
those 23 languages. What is the purpose of having all of them installed?
Is there a config file I can edit to limit which directories are
created?
Thanks,
Mike
--
"The optimist proclaims that we live in the best of all
possible worlds. The pessimist fears this is true."
Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2014 09:14:39 +1000
From: Scott Ferguson <scott.ferguson.debian.user@gmail.com>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: /var/cache/man/...
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On 10/04/14 01:44, Mike McClain wrote:
> The other day I noticed my computer clutteres up with many
> directories in /var/cache/man/ for languages I don't speak so I
> deleted them.
That was a mistake. You're new to this "sysadmin" stuff right? ;)
> Today they're back but I can't tell how they got there.
That's good, it means your "delete what I don't like or understand"
didn't create a huge problem.
> Nothing in /etc/cron/* says anything about recreating them. I assume
> mandb did it but can't tell what initiated the recreation of all
> these directories. Nor can I see any need, I don't imagine very many
> people speak all of those 23 languages. What is the purpose of having
> all of them installed?
Um, didn't *you* install them?
Wouldn't that make it a rhetorical question?
:)
The answer of course is that most people use characters and words from a
number of languages. Those extra man pages don't take up a lot of space.
You have several options:-
;don't install all languages to start with (be selective during installs
- don't install i18n packages if you don't want internationalization)
;don't install man
;install localpurge, select only the locales you are interested in, use
it to purge other locales
> Is there a config file I can edit to limit which directories are
> created?
locales does that. Install localepurge to limit the locales supported by
installed packages.
> Thanks, Mike -- "The optimist proclaims that we live in the best of
> all possible worlds. The pessimist fears this is true."
>
>
Kind regards
Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2014 19:33:07 -0400
From: Kevin Price <keyvin@crazycoder.us>
To: Debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: BD-R and wheezy
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On Wed, Apr 09, 2014 at 11:05:42PM +0000, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 09, 2014 at 06:32:01PM -0400, Kevin Price wrote:
> > Is there an easy way to burn BD-R on wheezy? I met a guy at a LUG that wanted to try linux but he lives out in the middle of nowhere and has 56k. Since I have cable, I downloaded the Blu Ray images using jigdo. I am having a lot of trouble burning them to disk. I tried basero, but that gives the error that the disk isn't supported. Is there a way to get this working?
> >
> >
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>
> Get a large enough stick - a 16G should work - and dd the .iso image to the stick. That forms a bootable USB stick from which you can then install - I did this
> a while ago to prove the point and there are discussions around with Richard Owlett on the lists - he's doing something vaguely similar.
>
> If you _only_ want to install from the stick to start, skip using a network mirror then go back and reconfigure the /etc/apt/sources.list afterwards.
>
> Hope this helps,
>
> All the very best
>
> Andy Cater
Andy, It would have to be a very large thumb drive, like 64gb. I'm also not sure how that would work with apt-cdrom. The advantage to the two blu ray set is that it contains the entire wheezy distribution, so he could install everything if he wanted to and never use his internet connection.
I know I am in the extreme minority of users to even own a BD-R drive. I can't find any information as to wether burning BD-R is supported under wheezy.
I'd rather not upgrade to Jessie as several x86 windows programs I run with wine don't run at all under Jessie ATM. If I have to, I have a windows install I can use to burn the images but this is something I'd like to get working on debian.
Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2014 09:34:37 +1000
From: Scott Ferguson <scott.ferguson.debian.user@gmail.com>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: BD-R and wheezy
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On 10/04/14 08:32, Kevin Price wrote:
> Is there an easy way to burn BD-R on wheezy?
Yes. Several. And much fine documentation on the subject.
> I met a guy at a LUG
> that wanted to try linux but he lives out in the middle of nowhere
> and has 56k. Since I have cable, I downloaded the Blu Ray images
> using jigdo. I am having a lot of trouble burning them to disk. I
> tried basero, but that gives the error that the disk isn't supported.
> Is there a way to get this working?
>
>
I haven't used brasero (it's GNOME, I'm KDE), but a quick scan of the
man pages shows it supports blu-ray.
Two things to check:-
;that your burner supports blu-ray.[*1]
;that your burning program (brasero, k3b etc) is configured to use
cdrecord, which supports blu-ray.
Kind regards
[*1]
cat /proc/sys/dev/cdrom/info
dmesg | egrep -i --color 'dvd/|blu/|cdrom/|writer'
cd-drive # requires libcdio-utils be installed first
Date: Wed, 09 Apr 2014 20:07:43 -0400
From: Doug <dmcgarrett@optonline.net>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: /var/cache/man/...
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On 04/09/2014 07:14 PM, Scott Ferguson wrote:
> On 10/04/14 01:44, Mike McClain wrote:
>> The other day I noticed my computer clutteres up with many
>> directories in /var/cache/man/ for languages I don't speak so I
>> deleted them.
> That was a mistake. You're new to this "sysadmin" stuff right? ;)
snip/
>
> The answer of course is that most people use characters and words from a
> number of languages. Those extra man pages don't take up a lot of space.
>
>
/snip/
The only characters that anyone could reasonably need can be
formed by setting up a Compose key. That will allow you all
the diacritical marks for the Romance languages, the
umlauts and esstset for German, and some of the oddball stuff that
you see in the Scandinavian and Polish languages. It's unlikely that
you're going to need a Cyrillic or East Asian alphabet (of which there
are several--Korean, Japanese, Chinese, Thai, probably more).
The Compose will also give you currency signs and some common
fractions.
(Some word processors have tables of symbols--things you wouldn't
find in any of the locales, like musical flat signs, some mathematical
operators, etc.)
Unless you are going to actually write in a language other than English,
you won't need any locale other than that.
--doug
Date: Wed, 09 Apr 2014 16:08:50 -0800
From: Mark Neyhart <Mark.Neyhart@akleg.gov>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: BD-R and wheezy
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On 04/09/2014 02:32 PM, Kevin Price wrote:
> Is there an easy way to burn BD-R on wheezy? I met a guy at a LUG that wanted to try linux but he lives out in the middle of nowhere and has 56k. Since I have cable, I downloaded the Blu Ray images using jigdo. I am having a lot of trouble burning them to disk. I tried basero, but that gives the error that the disk isn't supported. Is there a way to get this working?
>
>
I've burned several Blu-Rays with growisofs. I ran it as root on Lenny.
#growisofs -dvd-compat -Z /dev/dvd5=blurayImage.iso
It completed with a message about "CLOSE SESSION failed", but it
didn't seem to matter. Note that /dev/dvd5 should be your own device
name, and blurayImage.iso should be your own iso image.
Mark Neyhart
Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2014 10:50:05 +1000
From: Scott Ferguson <scott.ferguson.debian.user@gmail.com>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: /var/cache/man/...
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On 10/04/14 10:07, Doug wrote:
>
> On 04/09/2014 07:14 PM, Scott Ferguson wrote:
>> On 10/04/14 01:44, Mike McClain wrote:
>>> The other day I noticed my computer clutteres up with many
>>> directories in /var/cache/man/ for languages I don't speak so I
>>> deleted them.
>> That was a mistake. You're new to this "sysadmin" stuff right? ;)
> snip/
>>
>> The answer of course is that most people use characters and words
>> from a number of languages. Those extra man pages don't take up a
>> lot of space.
>>
>>
> /snip/
>
> The only characters that anyone could reasonably need can be formed
> by setting up a Compose key.
Do you have a source for that or is it just an opinion from the
viewpoint of a particular location?
> That will allow you all the diacritical marks for the Romance
> languages, the umlauts and esstset for German, and some of the
> oddball stuff that you see in the Scandinavian and Polish languages.
> It's unlikely that you're going to need a Cyrillic or East Asian
> alphabet (of which there are several--Korean, Japanese, Chinese,
> Thai, probably more). The Compose will also give you currency signs
> and some common fractions. (Some word processors have tables of
> symbols--things you wouldn't find in any of the locales, like musical
> flat signs, some mathematical operators, etc.)
> Unless you are going
> to actually write in a language other than English, you won't need
> any locale other than that.
Agreed.
But... most people do the "hit Enter" install, and Debian caters for
that sort of "anyone" approach by providing "everything" unless the
installer specifies what locales (as opposed to *character* sets), *and*
choses to purge other locales.
>
> --doug
>
>
Kind regards
Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2014 20:00:35 -0500
From: Kyle Bentley <kwbent@uab.edu>
To: <debian-user@lists.debian.org>
Subject: Must run pulseaudio as root to get sound
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Hello everyone,
I'm running Jessie x64 with the XFCE DE. I've noticed that as of last
week sometime, after an update, I have to kill pulseaudio, and restart
it with "pulseaudio -D --system" in order to get any sound. I haven't
made any modifications that I think would have any influence on
pulseaudio, and I get the same behavior with any of the old kernels I
boot into. I can also run alsamixer, see all sound cards, adjust
sliders, ect... but nothing other than restarting pulse brings back sound.
Thanks for any advice
Kyle B
Has anyone noticed similar behavior with their machine? For
completeness, the specs are
Debian Jessie x64
Kernel 3.14 - Compiled by me
Realtek ALC892 sound chip
AMD cpu and graphics card
output of lsmod |grep snd:
kyle@Lore:~$ lsmod |grep snd
snd_hda_codec_realtek 50167 1
snd_hda_codec_generic 59066 2 snd_hda_codec_realtek
snd_hda_intel 34716 10
snd_hda_codec 91185 3
snd_hda_codec_realtek,snd_hda_codec_generic,snd_hda_intel
snd_hwdep 13148 1 snd_hda_codec
snd_pcm 84507 3 snd_hda_codec,snd_hda_intel
snd_seq 48835 0
snd_seq_device 13132 1 snd_seq
snd_timer 26615 2 snd_pcm,snd_seq
snd 61046 28
snd_hda_codec_realtek,snd_hwdep,snd_timer,snd_pcm,snd_seq,snd_hda_codec_generic,snd_hda_codec,snd_hda_intel,snd_seq_device
soundcore 13026 1 snd
output of ls /dev/snd/by-path:
kyle@Lore:/dev/snd/by-path$ ls
pci-0000:00:14.2 pci-0000:01:00.1
output of lspci |grep Audio
root@Lore:/proc# lspci |grep Audio
00:14.2 Audio device: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] SBx00
Azalia (Intel HDA) (rev 40)
01:00.1 Audio device: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI]
Cayman/Antilles HDMI Audio [Radeon HD 6900 Series]
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Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2014 14:09:44 +1200
From: Chris Bannister <cbannister@slingshot.co.nz>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: Cropping a large collection of .PNG screenshots
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On Wed, Apr 09, 2014 at 03:03:14AM -0700, Kevin O'Gorman wrote:
> I have a few hundred screen shots I want to put on a web page, but
> they are all full-screen and I want to crop to the real contents.
> This is an identical region in all cases. So I want to script it.
>
> So, 2 questions:
> A) What's the best tool for the job? Gimp, irfanview, or something else?
> B) Is there a script already in existence where I can just change the
> crop rectangle? I really don't want to learn a new language for a
> one-time job.
*IF* you are into perl, then consider perlmagick.
There are examples under the /usr/share/doc/perlmagick/examples/demo/
directory, e.g.
#!/usr/bin/perl
$p = new Image::Magick;
$p->Read("uncropped-screenshot.png");
$p->Crop(geometry=>'80x80+25+50');
$p->Set(page=>'0x0+0+0');
$p->Write("cropped-screenshot.png");
Play around with the geometry parameters until you get the desired
result.
--
"If you're not careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people
who are being oppressed, and loving the people who are doing the
oppressing." --- Malcolm X
Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2014 00:27:04 -0400
From: Doug <dmcgarrett@optonline.net>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: /var/cache/man/...
Message-id: <[🔎] 53461D98.2050908@optonline.net">[🔎] 53461D98.2050908@optonline.net>
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On 04/09/2014 08:50 PM, Scott Ferguson wrote:
> On 10/04/14 10:07, Doug wrote:
>>
>> /snip/
>>
>> The only characters that anyone could reasonably need can be formed
>> by setting up a Compose key.
> Do you have a source for that or is it just an opinion from the
> viewpoint of a particular location?
>
>
The particular location is the United States. If you are in, say, Japan,
then please ignore.
>> Unless you are going
>> to actually write in a language other than English, you won't need
>> any locale other than that.
> Agreed.
> But... most people do the "hit Enter" install, and Debian caters for
> that sort of "anyone" approach by providing "everything" unless the
> installer specifies what locales (as opposed to *character* sets), *and*
> choses to purge other locales.
>
>> --doug
>>
>>
>
> Kind regards
>
>
>
>
Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2014 06:49:53 +0200
From: "Mariusz Kalinowski" <biuro@gotowkadlaprzedsiebiorcow.pl>
To: <debian-user@lists.debian.org>
Subject: =?iso-8859-2?Q?Mamy_dla_Ciebie_szybk=B1_po=BFyczk=EA?=
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Witam
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*Powyższa informacja jest jedynie
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Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2014 22:33:00 -0700
From: Patrick Bartek <bartek047@yahoo.com>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: Must run pulseaudio as root to get sound
Message-ID: <[🔎] 20140409223300.260d37ca@debian7.boseck208.net">[🔎] 20140409223300.260d37ca@debian7.boseck208.net>
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On Wed, 09 Apr 2014, Kyle Bentley wrote:
> Hello everyone,
>
> I'm running Jessie x64 with the XFCE DE. I've noticed that as of last
> week sometime, after an update, I have to kill pulseaudio, and restart
> it with "pulseaudio -D --system" in order to get any sound. I haven't
> made any modifications that I think would have any influence on
> pulseaudio, and I get the same behavior with any of the old kernels I
> boot into. I can also run alsamixer, see all sound cards, adjust
> sliders, ect... but nothing other than restarting pulse brings back
> sound.
>
> Thanks for any advice
>
> Kyle B
>
> Has anyone noticed similar behavior with their machine? For
> completeness, the specs are
>
> [snip]
I have a highly customized install of Wheezy 64-bit -- No desktop
environment. Just Openbox WM, LXPanel and Debian Menu. Could never
get pulseaudio to load on start up. Had to do it manually in user
mode after I got to the GUI. Got errors/failure if I loaded it as root
or as a daemon.
Finally gave up trying to fix it. Purged it totally off the
system, manually deleted any remaining configs, rebooted,
then reinstalled. And its been working fine ever since. Loads
automatically when X starts now. I boot to a terminal, then run startx.
B
Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2014 09:15:14 +0300
From: Andrei POPESCU <andreimpopescu@gmail.com>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: Problem installing
Message-ID: <[🔎] 20140410061514.GE1623@sid.nuvreauspam>
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On Mi, 09 apr 14, 18:16:14, Michael Torres wrote:
> I am trying to boot using a live cd using a macbook pro. I downloaded=20
> the amd64 version because i have a for i7 processor. when it boots,=20
> the screen turns black and only a small line is visible. why is this,=20
> and how can i fix it?
What Live CD are you using?
Kind regards,
Andrei
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