Re: Proposal - preserve freedom of choice of init systems - SysV is FINE. Systemd won, sysV/OpenRC/etc fans must leave
This is called projection.
The poster evidently has a very hard case of it.
"The world is so mean. I didn't get what I want. So I'm going to keep
crying publicly and say a bunch of untrue and severe exaggeratons."
Oh well, hopefully time will heal...
Zenaan
On 3/4/14, Arnold Bird <arnoldbird@cosmicemail.com> wrote:
> Can't do it all myself.
> Debian was created by 1000s of people.
>
> The systemd people take over.
>
> They then say all anti-systemd debate is trlling
> or spm, and that anyone that doesn't
> like systemd has to go make their own
> linux distribution by themselves,
> no matter the fact that they, the systemd
> people did not create debian, they just
> co-opted it by targeting the decision
> making positions.
>
> It's OK for the systemd people to use others.
> Anyone else has to go it alone, even if
> what they like is allready supported.
>
> "buh buy, we won, gtfo"
> Here's the door to bsd, etc.
>
> It's like getting kicked out of your own country.
> "Go create your own, we bought the politicians and
> thus control the passive army"
>
> --- dmcgarrett@optonline.net wrote:
>
> From: Doug <dmcgarrett@optonline.net>
> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
> Subject: Re: Proposal - preserve freedom of choice of init systems - SysV is
> FINE.
> Date: Mon, 03 Mar 2014 19:27:23 -0500
>
> On 03/03/2014 07:02 PM, Arnold Bird wrote:
>> I myself do not like systemd either.
>>
>> Why don't I go use some other distro
>> since a vote was won on some corner
>> mailing list by a grand total of
>> 4 people infavor and 4 people against
>> about one week ago??
>>
>> Well:
>>
>> Debian is the universal operating system.
>> I shouldn't have to.
>>
>> /snip/
> I should not have to forgo all the packages of debian, all my experiance
> with debian (13 years), because four people deciced I and everyone of
> the thousands of debian developers and debian users should use systemd
> and that is it. The people who make debian are not beholden to gnome,
> systemd, redhat. The people on that committie might be. The people like
> me who are opensource programmers do not have to just accept the
> decision of the systemd backers.
>
> /snip/
>
> Two comments:
> 1. Debian is *not* the universal operating system. After Windows and Mac
> OsX, and maybe Unix, probably Ubuntu is.
> 2. Since you are a programmer, and Linux is an open source system, why
> not modify the part that includes the undesired code
> and put back the desired code? You could then publish the revised
> version as "Good Linux" or whatever you decided to call it.
>
> (I am not a fan of Ubuntu, just saying. . . .)
>
> --doug
>
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