Re: Vim config problem in jessie

[Frank Miles <fpm@u.washington.edu>]

On Sat, 15 Feb 2014 01:00:01 +0100, Jeremiah Mahler wrote:

> On Fri, Feb 14, 2014 at 10:42:59PM +0000, Frank Miles wrote:
>> On Fri, 14 Feb 2014 23:10:01 +0100, Jeremiah Mahler wrote:
>> 
>> > On Fri, Feb 14, 2014 at 08:22:02PM +0000, Frank Miles wrote:
>> >> On Fri, 14 Feb 2014 20:50:01 +0100, Jeremiah Mahler wrote:
>> >> 
>> >> > On Fri, Feb 14, 2014 at 06:35:25PM +0000, Frank Miles wrote:
>> >> >> I'm having problems setting the vim configuration -
>> >> >> and having it mean something - in a fairly new computer.
>> >> >> One simple example is the tab stops.  Since I'm the only direct
>> >> >> user of this machine, I've simply edited /etc/vim/vimrc, where I
>> >> >> have the line:
>> >> >> 	set tabstop=4
>> >> >> In addition, I've appended the line
>> >> >> 	set ts=4
>> >> >> to some of the 'plugin' files, for example:
>> >> >> 	/usr/share/vim/vim74/syntax/python.vim
>> > 
>> > The only entry in my ..syntax/pthon.vim with ts=8 is the modeline at
>> > the bottom.  This would only have an effect with python.vim is
>> > opened.
>> > It would not effect the editing of Python files.
>> > 
>> >> >> {the normal ending line with ts=8 has been commented-out;
>> >> >> otherwise the plugin file is unaltered from the Debian original}.
>> >> >> 
>> >> >> However when I open a python file, it's obvious that 8-space tabs
>> >> >> are being used.  Doing a set: shows that
>> >> >> 	softtabstop=4
>> >> >> But there is no
>> >> >> 	tabstop=4
>> >> >> whereas opening a 'C' file will achieve the latter (and 'proper'
>> >> >> spacing.
>> >> >> 
>> >> >> The file is recognized as python - the keywords are highlighted
>> >> >> as expected.  Manually entering the set ts=4 sets things right.
>> >> >> 
>> >> >> 
>> > Are there any modelines in this file?
>> > Does this issue occur with all Python files or just this one?
>> > Can you post an example?
>> 
>> 
>> All python files with tabs; for example:
>> --------------------------------
>> #!/usr/bin/python
>> 
>> def f() :
>>         return 1
>> 
>> print f()
>> -------------------------------
>> And yes, I know that some people consider tabs sinful. Thanks so much
>> for considering this!
>> 
>> 
>> >> >> I've tried creating a ~/.vim/vimrc to no avail.  I've not had any
>> >> >> problem with previous incarnations of Debian.
>> >> >> 
>> >> >> One has to suspect that some config file is overriding mine.
>> >> >> A quick examination of the installed vim packages using
>> >> >> 	dpkg -L ...
>> >> >> has turned up nothing other than links to /etc/vim/vimrc
>> >> >> 
>> >> >> Anyone have any hints regarding the source of this annoyance?
>> >> >> TIA!
>> >> >> 	-F
>> >> >> 
>> >> >> 
>> >> > I use
>> >> > 
>> >> > ~/.vimrc
>> >> > 
>> >> > and haven't experienced any of these issues.
>> >> > 
>> >> > --
>> >> > Jeremiah Mahler jmmahler@gmail.com http://github.com/jmahler
>> >> 
>> >> Thanks .. but tried that too, no change.
>> >> 
>> >> 
>> > --
>> > Jeremiah Mahler jmmahler@gmail.com http://github.com/jmahler
>> 
>> 
>> 
> If I remove my ~/.vimrc and open a Python file I get ts=8 and sw=8.  And
> when I edit the file the tabs are 8 as expected.
> I have not changed any of the system wide Vim configs in Debian.
> 
> If I create a ~/.vimrc with only one line
> 
> set ts=4
> 
> and then open the Python file again I will get ts=4, sw=8 and tabs will
> be 4 as expected.
> 
> In your case the ts=4 setting is non-existent even if set in a ~/.vimrc.
> This seem particularly odd.
> 
> What Vim versions are you running?
> 
> jeri@hudson:~$ dpkg -l vim* | grep ii ii  vim            2:7.4.161-1 
> amd64        Vi IMproved - enhanced vi editor ii  vim-common    
> 2:7.4.161-1  amd64        Vi IMproved - Common files ii  vim-doc       
> 2:7.4.161-1  all          Vi IMproved - HTML documentation ii  vim-gtk  
>      2:7.4.161-1  amd64        Vi IMproved - enhanced vi editor - with
> GTK2 GUI ii  vim-gui-common 2:7.4.161-1  all          Vi IMproved -
> Common GUI files ii  vim-runtime    2:7.4.161-1  all          Vi
> IMproved - Runtime files jeri@hudson:~$
> 
> --
> Jeremiah Mahler jmmahler@gmail.com http://github.com/jmahler

My versions (look just like yours)
ii  vim               2:7.4.161-1  amd64        Vi IMproved - enhanced vi 
editor
ii  vim-common        2:7.4.161-1  amd64        Vi IMproved - Common files
ii  vim-doc           2:7.4.161-1  all          Vi IMproved - HTML 
documentation
ii  vim-runtime       2:7.4.161-1  all          Vi IMproved - Runtime 
files
ii  vim-scripts       20130814     all          plugins for vim, adding 
bells and whistles
ii  vim-tiny          2:7.4.161-1  amd64        Vi IMproved - enhanced vi 
editor - compact version

I'm mystified.
   -F