Re: systemd

[Tom H <tomh0665@gmail.com>]

On Mon, Jul 30, 2012 at 8:36 PM, Joel Rees <joel.rees@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 7/30/12, Tom H <tomh0665@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Wed, Jul 25, 2012 at 11:26 AM, Ralf Mardorf
>> <ralf.mardorf@alice-dsl.net> wrote:
>>>
>>> I hate pulseaudio, but I could imagine that systemd anyway could have
>>> some advantages, even if it's from a man (boy) who often takes photos
>>> from himself in front of a mirror and then publish this snapshots in the
>>> Internet.
>>
>> Is there a relationship between taking your own picture in a mirror
>> and developing software?
>
> I, personally, recognize a certain ironic connection, particularly in
> relation to Poettering. I'll leave it to the list readers who care, to
> understand or misunderstand what I mean. (Not sure discussing it
> belongs here, but I can understand why Ralf might want to bring it
> up.)
>
> I don't know what brings Tom H here, but I am becoming more active
> here precisely because of systemd. Well, that, and SELinux. Too many
> changes too fast, too many of them shifting from stable techniques
> known to work in *nix environments to experimental implementations of
> techniques that are known to be primary underlying factors of many of
> the technical issues in the monoculture/world-domination OS.
>
> I don't, for example, dare try Fedora as an alternative to the ancient
> Mac OS X on the ancient but still viable iBook that my sister uses to
> keep in touch with the family. I have absolutely no confidence that I
> would be able to do the remote administration she needs done every now
> and then.
>
> (Fedora 13 or 14 would still have worked, fwiw.)
>
> There are both technical and political issues here that go way beyond
> the scope of this thread in debian-user, beyond a simple word to the
> wise:
>
> Be very, very careful with systemd.

I have absolutely no idea why I'm subscribed and post to d-u! ;)

If you have genuine technical reasons for being wary of systemd, fine!
If you have an emotional negative reaction to Lennart Poettering, then
your "carefulness" is silly. The reiserfs developer's a convicted
murderer, that didn't make reiserfs technically inferior overnight.
(Please note that I've never used reiserfs, so I don't care either
way.)