(Almost done!) Re: Shutting down error

[Camaleón <noelamac@gmail.com>]

On Thu, 19 Jul 2012 18:19:10 +0100, Brian wrote:

> On Thu 19 Jul 2012 at 14:55:56 +0000, Camaleón wrote:
> 
>> On Thu, 19 Jul 2012 10:26:21 +0100, Brian wrote:
>> 
>> > I think neither rsyslogd nor rpcbind is the problem here.
>> 
>> Well, they seem to fail to be stopped when I shutdown or restart the
>> system :-?
> 
> They are casualties, not causes. rsyslogd runs later in the sequence so
> gets shut down after sendsigs finishes. 

You mean that a single (unknown) process avoids the rest from stopping? 
That would be even worst... Or maybe is that the printed FAILED message 
is misleading? :-?

> You also still get the message at shutdown when both are not running
> beforehand.

Well, if I manually stop rsyslog before shutting down or restarting, the 
error vanishes for rsyslog while others remain, yes. 

But then, what is that FAILED message indicating exactly? What is (are) 
the service(s) failing? If it's only the first of the list (in this case, 
"exe → gnome-pty-helper"), why are the others being  printed?

>> > gnome-helper-pty comes in the libvte9 package and has a number of
>> > reverse depends; synaptic and gnome-terminal are among them. You
>> > could close down any such programs and check with ps whether
>> > gnome-helper-pty is still running before shutting down. Or log out
>> > and check.
>> 
>> I have tried, for instance, to manually stop "gnome-pty-helper" service
>> but is restarted/spawned again.
> 
> Ah! Start gnome-terminal here, kill gnome-helper-pty with -9 and there
> is no restarting of it - just a defunct process, a zombie. Is there
> still a gnome-pty-helper process running when you log out of the DE? Do
> you still get the problem message from sendsigs when you shutdown from a
> terminal after logging out?

(trying...)

There are two instances of "gnome-pty-helper" up and running (dunno if 
that's normal), okay, let's kill them (kill -9), one died (dissapeared, 
the other is marked as zombie, fine.

(relogin...)

Now there's only _one_ instance of "gnome-pty-helper" running.

(restarting...)

Success! No error message! That means... that means I have an additional 
phantom "gnome-pty-helper" proccess running in background that shouldn't 
be running at all and that's what is preventing the clean shutdown/
restart, don't you think? :-)

Yeepe! Thanks! Now it's time to play the Ghostbusters, because I just 
left the system idle for a while (~10 minutes) and I can see a second 
"gnome-pty-helper" instance running...

Greetings,

-- 
Camaleón