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Re: Radeon 8500, kdetv, and xawtv broken - no video overlay device



On Thu, 06 Jan 2011 23:58:47 -0500, Robert Braddock wrote:

>> You can try with another programs to view the TV, like Videolan, Me-TV
>> or even Kaffeine :-?
> 
> I don't know how to make anything else talk to the Xvideo overlay
> device.  The only mentions I've found were things NOT using it, or only
> using a /dev/video0 type device.  Kaffeine, vlc, and me-tv don't seem to
> have an obvious way to access anything other than the /dev/video0
> system.

And mplayer or xine? :-?

> Xawtv (which is teeny and can't resize), kdetv (which can't show the
> actual video) and avview (which doesn't even run anymore) are the only
> things I've seen that will use the Xvideo overlay instead of requiring a
> /dev/video0 device.  That's why, if getting /dev/video0 for a Radeon8500
> were feasible, I'd like to leave this whole weird overlay device thing
> behind, like everyone else seems to have...

I don't like to look pessimistic but maybe it's time to get a new card...

>> > Can I get a /dev/video0 for a Radeon 8500's input?  Xorg obviously
>> > isn't going to bother to keep it working, and it would be really nice
>> > to be able to use a better program than xawtv.
>> Maybe you card does not allow that... what tv tuner chipset has?
> 
> Actually I'm trying to get the basic a/v-in to work (mainly the svideo
> and rca audio inputs), not the tuner.  I've kind of given up on the
> tuner...  It looks like the card includes such things as : FI123xx
> (FI1236W) Tuner, TDA9885 Alignment-free IF-PLL, MSP34xx (MSP3445G,
> MSP3430), and Rage Theatre revision 00000003, if any of that helps.

I dunno where to start debugging this... documentation/how to for the 
tv capabilities of your card seems pretty old and outdated:

http://linuxtv.org/wiki/index.php/ATI/AMD#ATI_Graphic_cards_with_TV_Tuners_and.2For_Capture_facilities

Hum... it's possible that you get accurate feedback from the GATOS devel 
mailing list:

http://news.gmane.org/gmane.comp.video.gatos.devel

At least they will be able to tell you what can you expect from your 
card and if possible, how to restore the tunning facilities.

Greetings,

-- 
Camaleón


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