Re: [Totally OT] Re: Hmmm. A question. Was [Re: Debian is losing its users]
On Fri, Apr 4, 2008 at 2:38 AM, Hal Vaughan <hal@thresholddigital.com> wrote:
> On Thursday 03 April 2008, Chris Walters wrote:
> > Ron Johnson wrote:
> > | On 04/03/08 15:39, Ivan Savcic wrote:
> > |> On Thu, Apr 3, 2008 at 10:03 PM, Ron Johnson
> > |> <ron.l.johnson@cox.net> wrote:
> >
> > <snip>
> >
> > |>> That smells of elitism. (Not that I mind...)
> > |>
> > |> No, it's just you can't have all. It's a matter of compromise. A
> > |> "pick two" game, if you wish. And Debian simply can't please
> > |> everyone. The point is, why be bothered by that? Debian set it's
> > |> goals and a corresponding target group was gathered around them.
> > |> And a good one, if you ask me.
> > |
> > | Because it's "elitist" to not want to please all the people all the
> > | time...
> >
> > No, it is elitist to say, "Debian is the only good distribution, the
> > only truly GNU/Linux distribution worth having. All others are for
> > the uneducated masses, who don't care about being right. We are
> > smarter and better than they are, because we choose Debian - all hail
> > the mighty Debian!"
>
> According to St. IGNUcious himself (aka RMS), at a talk I saw him give
> last Thursday, Debian isn't a true GNU/Linux distro because it includes
> non-free software.
>
> I'm not saying I agree with him on this, but it is his opinion that
> there are only a few truly free distros out there. He named them and
> I've forgotten them, but they were not any names I recognized or had
> heard of before and I'm familiar with at least the top 25-50 names.
>
> Hal
AFAIK, RMS considers only one distribution to be really and truly free
-- it's the Gentoo based Ututo[1]. He talked about this in his talk he
held in Belgrade, Serbia.
[1] https://www.ututo.org/www/?country=ENGLISH
Ivan
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