Re: Burn CD

["s. keeling" <keeling@nucleus.com>]

Joerg Schilling <Joerg.Schilling@fokus.fraunhofer.de>:
> 
>  The real problem is a problem caused by the fact that the people
>  who "created" the wodim "project" don't like to cooperate in a way
>  that results in quality.  I cannot accept patches that don't fix
>  the problems they are intended to fix but introduce bugs instead.

Hey Joerg.  Surely, from a software development viewpoint, that's
quantifiable, yes?  Are there any pointers to the list of bugs?  I'm
not up to date on the situation, sorry.  I'll go dig into
bugs.debian.org and see what I can learn.

> > However, from a user's point of view, wodim is a drop-in
> > replacement for cdrecord as a CD (and DVD?) burning
> > application. It works almost
> 
>  Given the fact that wodim misses a lot of features that are
>  supported by cdrecord since a long time and given the fact that
>  wodim is completely unable to talk to the drive under some
>  conditions (e.g. suse 10.2 on a IBM laptop), I don't see wodim as a
>  "drop in replacememt"

Does the same level release work in RH?

>  Let me give you a simple explanation that verifies that your claim
>  is wrong: wodim does not implement a single feature that cdrecord
>  did not already implement _before_ wodim came up in September 2006.

Uh, dev=/dev/hdd notation, vs. dev=0,0,1 or dev=ATAPI:...

>  Wodim is neither developed nor maintained. It replicates the same
>  stages as a similar "fork" from 2001:
> 
>  1)      declare a license problem
> 
>  2)      rip off the working build system and replace it by
>          something broken 

Debian builds broken installers?  I think the rest of the Universe
will disagree with you on that.

>  3)      the code does not even work on Linux on x86 anymore

Works fine here.  Debian Etch.  Cheap LG 52x CD-RW.  I've had
portability problems when burnt at 52x, but 16x solves it.  Haven't
tested 32x yet.

>  4)      fix the bugs introduced by the build system change

Disputed.

>  5)      stop working on the code after 80% of these bugs have been fixed.
> 
>  Debian lists more than 60 important bugs for the project. None of
>  these problems has been fixed during the past 8 months. If wodim
>  was still maintained, I would expect to see bug fixes.

Hmm ...  Debian is an all volunteer project, much like yourself I
guess, but you don't have the baggage of The Debian Project hanging
around your neck.  DDs do.

What's stopping cdrecord from being in Debian alongside wodim?  Eg., awk,
nawk, gawk?  Wodim, cdrecord, ...


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