On Tue, 2007-04-17 at 22:30 +0100, Alan Chandler wrote: > On Tuesday 17 April 2007 22:13, Greg Folkert wrote: > > On Tue, 2007-04-17 at 21:48 +0100, Alan Chandler wrote: > > > On Tuesday 17 April 2007 14:07, Greg Folkert wrote: > > > > On Tue, 2007-04-17 at 07:12 +0100, Alan Chandler wrote: > > > > > On Monday 16 April 2007 22:29, Alan Chandler wrote: > > > > > > I've just upgraded my Debian Sid system, and now when I try > > > > > > and start konsole (in KDE) it fails saying it is unable to > > > > > > open a PTY. > > > > > > > > > > > > Is this a udev problem or something else? > > > > > > > > > > I presume by the deafening silence that this isn't a problem > > > > > that is hitting everyone else out there. > > > > > > > > > > Can someone at least tell me which init script is supposed to > > > > > set up the psuedo ttys so I can try and figure out why it isn't > > > > > happening. > > > > > > > > It isn't an init script. udev dynamically creates these. > > > > > > > > As I open new consoles in XFce, I find that with one terminal > > > > open, I get one device in /dev/pts/. If I open 2, I have two > > > > devices in /dev/pts/. > > > > > > > > If I open 30 terminals, I get 30 devices. I just tried it. > > > > > > > > I actually looked for evidence that it is a udev problem or a > > > > konsole problem. I installed konsole, had zero problems, I got > > > > nothing for you on this one. I used gnome-terminal, same thing. > > > > xterm, same thing. > > > > > > > > konsole v3.5.5a.dfsg.1-6 > > > > xterm v225-1 > > > > gnome-terminal v2.18.0-1 > > > > udev v0.105-4 > > > > hal v0.5.8.1-9 > > > > linux-image linux-image-2.6.20-1-k7 v2.6.20-2~snapshot.8442 > > > > > > > > In /etc/udev/permissions.rules I have this: > > > > > > > > KERNEL=="pty*", MODE="0666", GROUP="tty" > > > > > > > > In /etc/udev/run.rules > > > > > > > > KERNEL=="pty*", OPTIONS+="last_rule" > > > > > > > > I'd have to think that would be all that is needed. > > > > > > I have just those rules. But what devices does it create in /dev? > > > I have /dev/ptmx and a directory /dev/pts (with nothing in it). > > > The directory is owned by root.root with access rights 755. This > > > maybe the problem - can you tell me what yours are. > > > > ls -l /dev/ptmx > > crw-rw-rw- 1 root root 5, 2 2007-04-17 16:51 /dev/ptmx > > > > ls -ld /dev/pts > > drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 0 2007-04-13 08:39 /dev/pts > > Got those > > > > > ls -l /dev/pts/1 > > crw--w---- 1 greg tty 136, 1 2007-04-17 16:57 /dev/pts/1 > > Not this [snip] You wouldn't have this as I had a XFce Terminal open just to have something there. Personally, I am not aware of anything. On the off chance, can you do "ALT+F2" and run "konsole --ls" which starts it with a login shell rather than a regular shell? This may help separate from udev and other stuff. -- greg, greg@gregfolkert.net Novell's Directory Services is a competitive product to Microsoft's Active Directory in much the same way that the Saturn V is a competitive product to those dinky little model rockets that kids light off down at the playfield. -- Thane Walkup
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