On Tue, 2007-04-17 at 22:31 +0100, Alan Chandler wrote: > On Tuesday 17 April 2007 22:02, Florian Kulzer wrote: > > On Tue, Apr 17, 2007 at 21:48:13 +0100, Alan Chandler wrote: > > > On Tuesday 17 April 2007 14:07, Greg Folkert wrote: > > > > On Tue, 2007-04-17 at 07:12 +0100, Alan Chandler wrote: > > > > > On Monday 16 April 2007 22:29, Alan Chandler wrote: > > > > > > I've just upgraded my Debian Sid system, and now when I try > > > > > > and start konsole (in KDE) it fails saying it is unable to > > > > > > open a PTY. > > > > [...] > > > > > > It isn't an init script. udev dynamically creates these. > > > > > > > > As I open new consoles in XFce, I find that with one terminal > > > > open, I get one device in /dev/pts/. If I open 2, I have two > > > > devices in /dev/pts/. > > > > > > > > If I open 30 terminals, I get 30 devices. I just tried it. > > > > > > > > I actually looked for evidence that it is a udev problem or a > > > > konsole problem. I installed konsole, had zero problems, I got > > > > nothing for you on this one. I used gnome-terminal, same thing. > > > > xterm, same thing. > > > > > > > > konsole v3.5.5a.dfsg.1-6 > > > > xterm v225-1 > > > > gnome-terminal v2.18.0-1 > > > > udev v0.105-4 > > > > hal v0.5.8.1-9 > > > > linux-image linux-image-2.6.20-1-k7 v2.6.20-2~snapshot.8442 > > > > > > > > In /etc/udev/permissions.rules I have this: > > > > > > > > KERNEL=="pty*", MODE="0666", GROUP="tty" > > > > > > > > In /etc/udev/run.rules > > > > > > > > KERNEL=="pty*", OPTIONS+="last_rule" > > > > > > > > I'd have to think that would be all that is needed. > > > > > > I have just those rules. But what devices does it create in /dev? > > > I have /dev/ptmx and a directory /dev/pts (with nothing in it). > > > The directory is owned by root.root with access rights 755. This > > > maybe the problem - can you tell me what yours are. > > > > $ ls -l /dev/ptmx > > crw-rw-rw- 1 root root 5, 2 2007-04-17 22:54 /dev/ptmx > > > > > > Two last questions, is udev working(running?) and what kernel are > > > > you using? > > > > > > udev is running > > > kernel is 2.6.20 > > > > > > (I would normally go to a console and do a uname -r for you - but I > > > am hobbled because I can only get to a console with CTL-ALT-F1, but > > > then I can only get back if I restart kdm - because a bug in the > > > i810 driver locks my machine solid if I try to come back via > > > CTL-ALT-F7). > > > > For some versions of the i810 driver I have had to set > > > > Option "VBERestore" "true" > > > > Tried that, only made things worse. Can't even get to a console from my > X screen now, let alone get back again. > > > > in the "Device" section of xorg.conf to make the mode switching work. > > (Currently it is commented out, but I am running the Xorg from > > Experimental right now. I don't remember how it was with version 7.1) One thing you may want to try, is using the Frame-Buffer setup for Xorg. This may give you the ability to get the regular non-X consoles... and back again. i810 has historically given me shits and fits. I have nearly always ended up using the frame-buffer setup. -- greg, greg@gregfolkert.net Novell's Directory Services is a competitive product to Microsoft's Active Directory in much the same way that the Saturn V is a competitive product to those dinky little model rockets that kids light off down at the playfield. -- Thane Walkup
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