On Tue, 2007-04-17 at 21:48 +0100, Alan Chandler wrote: > On Tuesday 17 April 2007 14:07, Greg Folkert wrote: > > On Tue, 2007-04-17 at 07:12 +0100, Alan Chandler wrote: > > > On Monday 16 April 2007 22:29, Alan Chandler wrote: > > > > I've just upgraded my Debian Sid system, and now when I try and > > > > start konsole (in KDE) it fails saying it is unable to open a > > > > PTY. > > > > > > > > Is this a udev problem or something else? > > > > > > I presume by the deafening silence that this isn't a problem that > > > is hitting everyone else out there. > > > > > > Can someone at least tell me which init script is supposed to set > > > up the psuedo ttys so I can try and figure out why it isn't > > > happening. > > > > It isn't an init script. udev dynamically creates these. > > > > As I open new consoles in XFce, I find that with one terminal open, I > > get one device in /dev/pts/. If I open 2, I have two devices > > in /dev/pts/. > > > > If I open 30 terminals, I get 30 devices. I just tried it. > > > > I actually looked for evidence that it is a udev problem or a konsole > > problem. I installed konsole, had zero problems, I got nothing for > > you on this one. I used gnome-terminal, same thing. xterm, same > > thing. > > > > konsole v3.5.5a.dfsg.1-6 > > xterm v225-1 > > gnome-terminal v2.18.0-1 > > udev v0.105-4 > > hal v0.5.8.1-9 > > linux-image linux-image-2.6.20-1-k7 v2.6.20-2~snapshot.8442 > > > > In /etc/udev/permissions.rules I have this: > > > > KERNEL=="pty*", MODE="0666", GROUP="tty" > > > > In /etc/udev/run.rules > > > > KERNEL=="pty*", OPTIONS+="last_rule" > > > > I'd have to think that would be all that is needed. > > I have just those rules. But what devices does it create in /dev? > I have /dev/ptmx and a directory /dev/pts (with nothing in it). The > directory is owned by root.root with access rights 755. This maybe the > problem - can you tell me what yours are. ls -l /dev/ptmx crw-rw-rw- 1 root root 5, 2 2007-04-17 16:51 /dev/ptmx ls -ld /dev/pts drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 0 2007-04-13 08:39 /dev/pts ls -l /dev/pts/1 crw--w---- 1 greg tty 136, 1 2007-04-17 16:57 /dev/pts/1 Which are historically correct and correct for nowadays, since "root" creates the files in there and chowns them once created. > > Two last questions, is udev working(running?) and what kernel are you > > using? > > udev is running > kernel is 2.6.20 use synaptic to find out the actual version of the source, I am betting the 2.6.20-1 and also the version of udev. > (I would normally go to a console and do a uname -r for you - but I am > hobbled because I can only get to a console with CTL-ALT-F1, but then I > can only get back if I restart kdm - because a bug in the i810 driver > locks my machine solid if I try to come back via CTL-ALT-F7). No big deal. Konsole needs to have "kgrantpty" this way as far as the triplets are concerned (chmod 4755): ls -l /usr/bin/kgrantpty -rwsr-xr-x 1 root root 5824 2007-02-07 15:54 /usr/bin/kgrantpty But this may not apply. -- greg, greg@gregfolkert.net Novell's Directory Services is a competitive product to Microsoft's Active Directory in much the same way that the Saturn V is a competitive product to those dinky little model rockets that kids light off down at the playfield. -- Thane Walkup
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