I'm trying to install libc6 and it wants all of the X stuff shutdown. I can't recall the command to do this, but I thought there was one that brought the whole thing down for you... For whatever reason my /etc/init.d scripts give errors or don't work when I try to do "gdm stop" et al. Thanks, ejd _______________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Declare Yourself - Register online to vote today! http://vote.yahoo.com