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RE: Newby can't get Xwindows running



> From: Micha Feigin [mailto:michf@post.tau.ac.il]
> 
> On Sun, May 02, 2004 at 03:51:13PM +1000, David Moore wrote:
> > As a complete novice to Linux, please bear with me if my explanation of
> > the problem is confused.
> >
> > I installed Debian 3.0 r2 woody kernel 2.2.20 (many times on 2 different
> > machines) using defaults and keeping as simple as possible, but I have
> > not been able to get XWindows running.
> >
> 
> If its a workstation and not a server I would get the new installer
> beta (sarge) and install either testing or unstable. The version of X
> there and the kernel version is much newer and could solve some
> problems, also IIRC the installer has some hardware recognition (don't
> know if for X though).
> 
> I looked at the X version in stable and it looks like its 3.3.6 (which
> is very-very old). If you want to use stable go to
> http://www.backports.org/ and see how to add the backport packages
> (there is a HOWTO and installation instructions) and
> upgrade X (its 4.2.1 there although unstable and testing already
> have 4.3).
> 
> unstable is more stable then it sounds (I rarely have problems and then
> it will just inhibit me from installing problematic packages unless I
> bypass things), testing is ok now since its entering a freezing state
> on its way to become stable, although usually unstable is more stable
> and secure then testing. For a desktop unstable is usually the best
> solution (unless you want to run stable with back-ports).
> 
> You could also try the knoppix (http://www.knopper.net/knoppix/),
> meppis (http://www.mepis.org/) which have good hardware recognition,
> can install to the hardisk or run of a cd and are based on mix of
> debian testing/unstable.

I will take your advice and get sarge. Meanwhile I don't tolerate
disobedient software and will persist with woody a little longer - it's a
learning experience! 

My main interest in linux is as an alternative to nt server, so the server
functionality will be important once I start to find my way around.

> 
> > I used taskel to select: XWindows, Desktop environment and C/C++
> >
> > It boots into the bash shell fine except that during boot-up a message
> > appears: "Modprobe can't locate char-major-10-135"  (the pause key
> > doesn't halt the screen during boot-up so other important message might
> > flash past before I can write them down)
> >
> > I have a Matrox MGA G200 - 16Mb
> > Phillips SL200 19" monitor
> > MS 2 button mouse on PS2 port
> >
> > The problem is, when I try to run X, XFree386, xdm, kdm or gdm it does
> > not go to VGA mode but spews forth dialogue including the following 
> > lines which seem significant:
> >
> 
> could you post the output of running startx (try also as root to make
> sure that there is no permission problems) and the file

how do I pipe the output from startx to a file?


> /var/log/XFree86.0.log which may help to see the error messages.
> 

here is var/log/XFree86.0.log .....


This is a pre-release version of XFree86, and is not supported in any
way.  Bugs may be reported to XFree86@XFree86.Org and patches submitted
to fixes@XFree86.Org.  Before reporting bugs in pre-release versions,
please check the latest version in the XFree86 CVS repository
(http://www.XFree86.Org/cvs)

XFree86 Version 4.1.0.1 / X Window System
(protocol Version 11, revision 0, vendor release 6510)
Release Date: 21 December 2001
	If the server is older than 6-12 months, or if your card is
	newer than the above date, look for a newer version before
	reporting problems.  (See http://www.XFree86.Org/FAQ)
Build Operating System: Linux 2.6.3-bk2 i686 [ELF] 
Module Loader present
(==) Log file: "/var/log/XFree86.0.log", Time: Mon May  3 09:01:35 2004
(==) Using config file: "/etc/X11/XF86Config-4"
Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default setting,
         (++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational,
         (WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown.
(==) ServerLayout "Default Layout"
(**) |-->Screen "Default Screen" (0)
(**) |   |-->Monitor "Generic Monitor"
(**) |   |-->Device "Generic Video Card"
(**) |-->Input Device "Generic Keyboard"
(**) Option "XkbRules" "xfree86"
(**) XKB: rules: "xfree86"
(**) Option "XkbModel" "pc104"
(**) XKB: model: "pc104"
(**) Option "XkbLayout" "us"
(**) XKB: layout: "us"
(==) Keyboard: CustomKeycode disabled
(**) |-->Input Device "Configured Mouse"
(**) |-->Input Device "Generic Mouse"
(WW) The directory "/usr/lib/X11/fonts/cyrillic" does not exist.
	Entry deleted from font path.
(**) FontPath set to
"unix/:7100,/usr/lib/X11/fonts/misc,/usr/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/:unscaled,/usr
/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/:unscaled,/usr/lib/X11/fonts/Type1,/usr/lib/X11/fonts/S
peedo,/usr/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi,/usr/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi"
(==) RgbPath set to "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/rgb"
(==) ModulePath set to "/usr/X11R6/lib/modules"
(--) using VT number 9

(WW) Cannot open APM
(II) Module ABI versions:
	XFree86 ANSI C Emulation: 0.1
	XFree86 Video Driver: 0.4
	XFree86 XInput driver : 0.2
	XFree86 Server Extension : 0.1
	XFree86 Font Renderer : 0.2
(II) Loader running on linux
(II) LoadModule: "bitmap"
(II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/fonts/libbitmap.a
(II) Module bitmap: vendor="The XFree86 Project"
	compiled for 4.1.0.1, module version = 1.0.0
	Module class: XFree86 Font Renderer
	ABI class: XFree86 Font Renderer, version 0.2
(II) Loading font Bitmap
(II) LoadModule: "pcidata"
(II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libpcidata.a
(II) Module pcidata: vendor="The XFree86 Project"
	compiled for 4.1.0.1, module version = 0.1.0
	ABI class: XFree86 Video Driver, version 0.4
(II) PCI: Probing config type using method 1
(II) PCI: Config type is 1
(II) PCI: stages = 0x03, oldVal1 = 0x00000000, mode1Res1 = 0x80000000
(II) PCI: PCI scan (all values are in hex)
(II) PCI: 00:00:0: chip 1106,0305 card 0000,0000 rev 81 class 06,00,00 hdr
00
(II) PCI: 00:01:0: chip 1106,8305 card 0000,0000 rev 00 class 06,04,00 hdr
01
(II) PCI: 00:07:0: chip 1106,0686 card 1106,0000 rev 40 class 06,01,00 hdr
80
(II) PCI: 00:07:1: chip 1106,0571 card 0000,0000 rev 06 class 01,01,8a hdr
00
(II) PCI: 00:07:2: chip 1106,3038 card 0925,1234 rev 16 class 0c,03,00 hdr
00
(II) PCI: 00:07:3: chip 1106,3038 card 0925,1234 rev 16 class 0c,03,00 hdr
00
(II) PCI: 00:07:4: chip 1106,3057 card 0000,0000 rev 40 class 06,00,00 hdr
00
(II) PCI: 00:07:5: chip 1106,3058 card 1462,3400 rev 50 class 04,01,00 hdr
00
(II) PCI: 00:08:0: chip 10ec,8139 card a0a0,0027 rev 10 class 02,00,00 hdr
00
(II) PCI: 01:00:0: chip 102b,0521 card 102b,ff03 rev 01 class 03,00,00 hdr
00
(II) PCI: End of PCI scan
(II) LoadModule: "scanpci"
(II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libscanpci.a
(II) Module scanpci: vendor="The XFree86 Project"
	compiled for 4.1.0.1, module version = 0.1.0
	ABI class: XFree86 Video Driver, version 0.4
(II) UnloadModule: "scanpci"
(II) Unloading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libscanpci.a
(II) Host-to-PCI bridge:
(II) PCI-to-ISA bridge:
(II) Host-to-PCI bridge:
(II) PCI-to-PCI bridge:
(II) Bus 0: bridge is at (0:0:0), (-1,0,0), BCTRL: 0x08 (VGA_EN is set)
(II) Bus 0 I/O range:
	[0] -1 0	0x00000000 - 0x0000ffff (0x10000) IX[B]
(II) Bus 0 non-prefetchable memory range:
	[0] -1 0	0x00000000 - 0xffffffff (0x0) MX[B]
(II) Bus 0 prefetchable memory range:
	[0] -1 0	0x00000000 - 0xffffffff (0x0) MX[B]
(II) Bus 1: bridge is at (0:1:0), (0,1,1), BCTRL: 0x0c (VGA_EN is set)
(II) Bus 1 I/O range:
(II) Bus 1 non-prefetchable memory range:
	[0] -1 0	0xd4000000 - 0xd6ffffff (0x3000000) MX[B]
(II) Bus 1 prefetchable memory range:
	[0] -1 0	0xd7000000 - 0xd7ffffff (0x1000000) MX[B]
(II) Bus -1: bridge is at (0:7:0), (0,-1,0), BCTRL: 0x08 (VGA_EN is set)
(II) Bus -1 I/O range:
(II) Bus -1 non-prefetchable memory range:
(II) Bus -1 prefetchable memory range:
(II) Bus -1: bridge is at (0:0:0), (-1,-1,0), BCTRL: 0x08 (VGA_EN is set)
(II) Bus -1 I/O range:
	[0] -1 0	0x00000000 - 0x0000ffff (0x10000) IX[B]
(II) Bus -1 non-prefetchable memory range:
	[0] -1 0	0x00000000 - 0xffffffff (0x0) MX[B]
(II) Bus -1 prefetchable memory range:
	[0] -1 0	0x00000000 - 0xffffffff (0x0) MX[B]
(--) PCI:*(1:0:0) Matrox MGA G200 AGP rev 1, Mem @ 0xd7000000/24,
0xd4000000/14, 0xd5000000/23
(II) Addressable bus resource ranges are
	[0] -1 0	0x00000000 - 0xffffffff (0x0) MX[B]
	[1] -1 0	0x00000000 - 0x0000ffff (0x10000) IX[B]
(II) OS-reported resource ranges:
	[0] -1 0	0xffe00000 - 0xffffffff (0x200000) MX[B](B)
	[1] -1 0	0x00100000 - 0x3fffffff (0x3ff00000) MX[B]E(B)
	[2] -1 0	0x000f0000 - 0x000fffff (0x10000) MX[B]
	[3] -1 0	0x000c0000 - 0x000effff (0x30000) MX[B]
	[4] -1 0	0x00000000 - 0x0009ffff (0xa0000) MX[B]
	[5] -1 0	0x0000ffff - 0x0000ffff (0x1) IX[B]
	[6] -1 0	0x00000000 - 0x000000ff (0x100) IX[B]
(II) Active PCI resource ranges:
	[0] -1 0	0xd8000000 - 0xdfffffff (0x8000000) MX[B]E
	[1] -1 0	0xd0000000 - 0xd3ffffff (0x4000000) MX[B]E
	[2] -1 0	0xd5000000 - 0xd57fffff (0x800000) MX[B](B)
	[3] -1 0	0xd4000000 - 0xd4003fff (0x4000) MX[B](B)
	[4] -1 0	0xd7000000 - 0xd7ffffff (0x1000000) MX[B](B)
	[5] -1 0	0x0000ec00 - 0x0000ecff (0x100) IX[B]E
	[6] -1 0	0x0000e400 - 0x0000e4ff (0x100) IX[B]E
	[7] -1 0	0x0000e000 - 0x0000e0ff (0x100) IX[B]E
	[8] -1 0	0x0000dc00 - 0x0000dcff (0x100) IX[B]E
	[9] -1 0	0x0000d800 - 0x0000d8ff (0x100) IX[B]E
	[10] -1 0	0x0000d400 - 0x0000d4ff (0x100) IX[B]E
	[11] -1 0	0x0000d000 - 0x0000d0ff (0x100) IX[B]E
(II) Active PCI resource ranges after removing overlaps:
	[0] -1 0	0xd8000000 - 0xdfffffff (0x8000000) MX[B]E
	[1] -1 0	0xd0000000 - 0xd3ffffff (0x4000000) MX[B]E
	[2] -1 0	0xd5000000 - 0xd57fffff (0x800000) MX[B](B)
	[3] -1 0	0xd4000000 - 0xd4003fff (0x4000) MX[B](B)
	[4] -1 0	0xd7000000 - 0xd7ffffff (0x1000000) MX[B](B)
	[5] -1 0	0x0000ec00 - 0x0000ecff (0x100) IX[B]E
	[6] -1 0	0x0000e400 - 0x0000e4ff (0x100) IX[B]E
	[7] -1 0	0x0000e000 - 0x0000e0ff (0x100) IX[B]E
	[8] -1 0	0x0000dc00 - 0x0000dcff (0x100) IX[B]E
	[9] -1 0	0x0000d800 - 0x0000d8ff (0x100) IX[B]E
	[10] -1 0	0x0000d400 - 0x0000d4ff (0x100) IX[B]E
	[11] -1 0	0x0000d000 - 0x0000d0ff (0x100) IX[B]E
(II) OS-reported resource ranges after removing overlaps with PCI:
	[0] -1 0	0xffe00000 - 0xffffffff (0x200000) MX[B](B)
	[1] -1 0	0x00100000 - 0x3fffffff (0x3ff00000) MX[B]E(B)
	[2] -1 0	0x000f0000 - 0x000fffff (0x10000) MX[B]
	[3] -1 0	0x000c0000 - 0x000effff (0x30000) MX[B]
	[4] -1 0	0x00000000 - 0x0009ffff (0xa0000) MX[B]
	[5] -1 0	0x0000ffff - 0x0000ffff (0x1) IX[B]
	[6] -1 0	0x00000000 - 0x000000ff (0x100) IX[B]
(II) All system resource ranges:
	[0] -1 0	0xffe00000 - 0xffffffff (0x200000) MX[B](B)
	[1] -1 0	0x00100000 - 0x3fffffff (0x3ff00000) MX[B]E(B)
	[2] -1 0	0x000f0000 - 0x000fffff (0x10000) MX[B]
	[3] -1 0	0x000c0000 - 0x000effff (0x30000) MX[B]
	[4] -1 0	0x00000000 - 0x0009ffff (0xa0000) MX[B]
	[5] -1 0	0xd8000000 - 0xdfffffff (0x8000000) MX[B]E
	[6] -1 0	0xd0000000 - 0xd3ffffff (0x4000000) MX[B]E
	[7] -1 0	0xd5000000 - 0xd57fffff (0x800000) MX[B](B)
	[8] -1 0	0xd4000000 - 0xd4003fff (0x4000) MX[B](B)
	[9] -1 0	0xd7000000 - 0xd7ffffff (0x1000000) MX[B](B)
	[10] -1 0	0x0000ffff - 0x0000ffff (0x1) IX[B]
	[11] -1 0	0x00000000 - 0x000000ff (0x100) IX[B]
	[12] -1 0	0x0000ec00 - 0x0000ecff (0x100) IX[B]E
	[13] -1 0	0x0000e400 - 0x0000e4ff (0x100) IX[B]E
	[14] -1 0	0x0000e000 - 0x0000e0ff (0x100) IX[B]E
	[15] -1 0	0x0000dc00 - 0x0000dcff (0x100) IX[B]E
	[16] -1 0	0x0000d800 - 0x0000d8ff (0x100) IX[B]E
	[17] -1 0	0x0000d400 - 0x0000d4ff (0x100) IX[B]E
	[18] -1 0	0x0000d000 - 0x0000d0ff (0x100) IX[B]E
(II) LoadModule: "GLcore"
(II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extensions/libGLcore.a
(II) Module GLcore: vendor="The XFree86 Project"
	compiled for 4.1.0.1, module version = 1.0.0
	ABI class: XFree86 Server Extension, version 0.1
(II) LoadModule: "bitmap"
(II) Reloading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/fonts/libbitmap.a
(II) Loading font Bitmap
(II) LoadModule: "dbe"
(II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extensions/libdbe.a
(II) Module dbe: vendor="The XFree86 Project"
	compiled for 4.1.0.1, module version = 1.0.0
	Module class: XFree86 Server Extension
	ABI class: XFree86 Server Extension, version 0.1
(II) Loading extension DOUBLE-BUFFER
(II) LoadModule: "ddc"
(II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libddc.a
(II) Module ddc: vendor="The XFree86 Project"
	compiled for 4.1.0.1, module version = 1.0.0
	ABI class: XFree86 Video Driver, version 0.4
(II) LoadModule: "dri"
(II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extensions/libdri.a
(II) Module dri: vendor="The XFree86 Project"
	compiled for 4.1.0.1, module version = 1.0.0
	ABI class: XFree86 Server Extension, version 0.1
(II) Loading sub module "drm"
(II) LoadModule: "drm"
(II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/linux/libdrm.a
(II) Module drm: vendor="The XFree86 Project"
	compiled for 4.1.0.1, module version = 1.0.0
	ABI class: XFree86 Server Extension, version 0.1
(II) Loading extension XFree86-DRI
(II) LoadModule: "extmod"
(II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extensions/libextmod.a
(II) Module extmod: vendor="The XFree86 Project"
	compiled for 4.1.0.1, module version = 1.0.0
	Module class: XFree86 Server Extension
	ABI class: XFree86 Server Extension, version 0.1
(II) Loading extension SHAPE
(II) Loading extension MIT-SUNDRY-NONSTANDARD
(II) Loading extension BIG-REQUESTS
(II) Loading extension SYNC
(II) Loading extension MIT-SCREEN-SAVER
(II) Loading extension XC-MISC
(II) Loading extension XFree86-VidModeExtension
(II) Loading extension XFree86-Misc
(II) Loading extension XFree86-DGA
(II) Loading extension DPMS
(II) Loading extension FontCache
(II) Loading extension TOG-CUP
(II) Loading extension Extended-Visual-Information
(II) Loading extension XVideo
(II) Loading extension XVideo-MotionCompensation
(II) LoadModule: "freetype"
(II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/fonts/libfreetype.a
(II) Module freetype: vendor="The XFree86 Project"
	compiled for 4.1.0.1, module version = 1.1.9
	Module class: XFree86 Font Renderer
	ABI class: XFree86 Font Renderer, version 0.2
(II) Loading font FreeType
(II) LoadModule: "glx"
(II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extensions/libglx.a
(II) Module glx: vendor="The XFree86 Project"
	compiled for 4.1.0.1, module version = 1.0.0
	ABI class: XFree86 Server Extension, version 0.1
(II) Loading sub module "GLcore"
(II) LoadModule: "GLcore"
(II) Reloading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extensions/libGLcore.a
(II) Loading extension GLX
(II) LoadModule: "int10"
(II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/linux/libint10.a
(II) Module int10: vendor="The XFree86 Project"
	compiled for 4.1.0.1, module version = 1.0.0
	ABI class: XFree86 Video Driver, version 0.4
(II) LoadModule: "pex5"
(II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extensions/libpex5.a
(II) Module pex5: vendor="The XFree86 Project"
	compiled for 4.1.0.1, module version = 1.0.0
	Module class: XFree86 Server Extension
	ABI class: XFree86 Server Extension, version 0.1
(II) Loading extension X3D-PEX
(II) LoadModule: "record"
(II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extensions/librecord.a
(II) Module record: vendor="The XFree86 Project"
	compiled for 4.1.0.1, module version = 1.13.0
	Module class: XFree86 Server Extension
	ABI class: XFree86 Server Extension, version 0.1
(II) Loading extension RECORD
(II) LoadModule: "speedo"
(II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/fonts/libspeedo.a
(II) Module speedo: vendor="The XFree86 Project"
	compiled for 4.1.0.1, module version = 1.0.0
	Module class: XFree86 Font Renderer
	ABI class: XFree86 Font Renderer, version 0.2
(II) Loading font Speedo
(II) LoadModule: "type1"
(II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/fonts/libtype1.a
(II) Module type1: vendor="The XFree86 Project"
	compiled for 4.1.0.1, module version = 1.0.0
	Module class: XFree86 Font Renderer
	ABI class: XFree86 Font Renderer, version 0.2
(II) Loading font Type1
(II) Loading font CID
(II) LoadModule: "vbe"
(II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libvbe.a
(II) Module vbe: vendor="The XFree86 Project"
	compiled for 4.1.0.1, module version = 1.0.0
	ABI class: XFree86 Video Driver, version 0.4
(II) LoadModule: "xie"
(II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extensions/libxie.a
(II) Module xie: vendor="The XFree86 Project"
	compiled for 4.1.0.1, module version = 1.0.0
	Module class: XFree86 Server Extension
	ABI class: XFree86 Server Extension, version 0.1
(II) Loading extension XIE
(II) LoadModule: "mga"
(II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers/mga_drv.o
(II) Module mga: vendor="The XFree86 Project"
	compiled for 4.1.0.1, module version = 1.0.1
	Module class: XFree86 Video Driver
	ABI class: XFree86 Video Driver, version 0.4
(II) LoadModule: "mouse"
(II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/input/mouse_drv.o
(II) Module mouse: vendor="The XFree86 Project"
	compiled for 4.1.0.1, module version = 1.0.0
	Module class: XFree86 XInput Driver
	ABI class: XFree86 XInput driver, version 0.2
(II) MGA: driver for Matrox chipsets: mga2064w, mga1064sg, mga2164w,
	mga2164w AGP, mgag100, mgag100 PCI, mgag200, mgag200 PCI, mgag400
(II) Primary Device is: PCI 01:00:0
(--) Assigning device section with no busID to primary device
(--) Chipset mgag200 found
(II) resource ranges after xf86ClaimFixedResources() call:
	[0] -1 0	0xffe00000 - 0xffffffff (0x200000) MX[B](B)
	[1] -1 0	0x00100000 - 0x3fffffff (0x3ff00000) MX[B]E(B)
	[2] -1 0	0x000f0000 - 0x000fffff (0x10000) MX[B]
	[3] -1 0	0x000c0000 - 0x000effff (0x30000) MX[B]
	[4] -1 0	0x00000000 - 0x0009ffff (0xa0000) MX[B]
	[5] -1 0	0xd8000000 - 0xdfffffff (0x8000000) MX[B]E
	[6] -1 0	0xd0000000 - 0xd3ffffff (0x4000000) MX[B]E
	[7] -1 0	0xd5000000 - 0xd57fffff (0x800000) MX[B](B)
	[8] -1 0	0xd4000000 - 0xd4003fff (0x4000) MX[B](B)
	[9] -1 0	0xd7000000 - 0xd7ffffff (0x1000000) MX[B](B)
	[10] -1 0	0x0000ffff - 0x0000ffff (0x1) IX[B]
	[11] -1 0	0x00000000 - 0x000000ff (0x100) IX[B]
	[12] -1 0	0x0000ec00 - 0x0000ecff (0x100) IX[B]E
	[13] -1 0	0x0000e400 - 0x0000e4ff (0x100) IX[B]E
	[14] -1 0	0x0000e000 - 0x0000e0ff (0x100) IX[B]E
	[15] -1 0	0x0000dc00 - 0x0000dcff (0x100) IX[B]E
	[16] -1 0	0x0000d800 - 0x0000d8ff (0x100) IX[B]E
	[17] -1 0	0x0000d400 - 0x0000d4ff (0x100) IX[B]E
	[18] -1 0	0x0000d000 - 0x0000d0ff (0x100) IX[B]E
(II) resource ranges after probing:
	[0] -1 0	0xffe00000 - 0xffffffff (0x200000) MX[B](B)
	[1] -1 0	0x00100000 - 0x3fffffff (0x3ff00000) MX[B]E(B)
	[2] -1 0	0x000f0000 - 0x000fffff (0x10000) MX[B]
	[3] -1 0	0x000c0000 - 0x000effff (0x30000) MX[B]
	[4] -1 0	0x00000000 - 0x0009ffff (0xa0000) MX[B]
	[5] -1 0	0xd8000000 - 0xdfffffff (0x8000000) MX[B]E
	[6] -1 0	0xd0000000 - 0xd3ffffff (0x4000000) MX[B]E
	[7] -1 0	0xd5000000 - 0xd57fffff (0x800000) MX[B](B)
	[8] -1 0	0xd4000000 - 0xd4003fff (0x4000) MX[B](B)
	[9] -1 0	0xd7000000 - 0xd7ffffff (0x1000000) MX[B](B)
	[10] 0 0	0x000a0000 - 0x000affff (0x10000) MS[B]
	[11] 0 0	0x000b0000 - 0x000b7fff (0x8000) MS[B]
	[12] 0 0	0x000b8000 - 0x000bffff (0x8000) MS[B]
	[13] -1 0	0x0000ffff - 0x0000ffff (0x1) IX[B]
	[14] -1 0	0x00000000 - 0x000000ff (0x100) IX[B]
	[15] -1 0	0x0000ec00 - 0x0000ecff (0x100) IX[B]E
	[16] -1 0	0x0000e400 - 0x0000e4ff (0x100) IX[B]E
	[17] -1 0	0x0000e000 - 0x0000e0ff (0x100) IX[B]E
	[18] -1 0	0x0000dc00 - 0x0000dcff (0x100) IX[B]E
	[19] -1 0	0x0000d800 - 0x0000d8ff (0x100) IX[B]E
	[20] -1 0	0x0000d400 - 0x0000d4ff (0x100) IX[B]E
	[21] -1 0	0x0000d000 - 0x0000d0ff (0x100) IX[B]E
	[22] 0 0	0x000003b0 - 0x000003bb (0xc) IS[B]
	[23] 0 0	0x000003c0 - 0x000003df (0x20) IS[B]
(II) Setting vga for screen 0.
(II) Loading sub module "vgahw"
(II) LoadModule: "vgahw"
(II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libvgahw.a
(II) Module vgahw: vendor="The XFree86 Project"
	compiled for 4.1.0.1, module version = 0.1.0
	ABI class: XFree86 Video Driver, version 0.4
(**) MGA(0): Depth 24, (--) framebuffer bpp 32
(==) MGA(0): RGB weight 888
(**) MGA(0): Option "UseFBDev" "true"
(II) Loading sub module "mga_hal"
(II) LoadModule: "mga_hal"
(WW) Warning, couldn't open module mga_hal
(II) UnloadModule: "mga_hal"
(EE) MGA: Failed to load module "mga_hal" (module does not exist, 0)
(II) MGA(0): Matrox HAL module not found - using builtin mode setup instead
(--) MGA(0): Chipset: "mgag200"
(==) MGA(0): Using AGP 1x mode
(**) MGA(0): Using framebuffer device
(II) Loading sub module "fbdevhw"
(II) LoadModule: "fbdevhw"
(II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/linux/libfbdevhw.a
(II) Module fbdevhw: vendor="The XFree86 Project"
	compiled for 4.1.0.1, module version = 0.0.2
	ABI class: XFree86 Video Driver, version 0.4
(II) UnloadModule: "mga"
(II) UnloadModule: "fbdevhw"
(II) Unloading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/linux/libfbdevhw.a
(II) UnloadModule: "vgahw"
(II) Unloading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libvgahw.a
(EE) Screen(s) found, but none have a usable configuration.

Fatal server error:
no screens found

When reporting a problem related to a server crash, please send
the full server output, not just the last messages.
This can be found in the log file "/var/log/XFree86.0.log".
Please report problems to submit@bugs.debian.org.


--------- end of XFree86.0.log ----------

> > "	Warning couldn't open module mga_hal
> > "	MGA: Failed to load module mga_hal (Module does not exist, 0)
> >
> 
> Try using the generic vga driver as a start and see if that solves the
> problem first. If that works it will be easier to activate the mga
> driver next. Also try doing modprobe agpgart (assuming you have agp, don't
> remember if accelerated pci also uses agpgart or pcigart, try both).
> 

I did this using xf86config but XFree86.0.log suggests that X is still
trying to load MGA

> > "	EE Screen(s) found, but none have a usable configuration.
> >
> 
> Try reducing the resolution and refresh rate as a start to 1024x768 and
> 75HZ as a maximum, maybe its having problems with recognizing your
> monitor. Again if this works its easier to improve afterwords. IIRC
> there is an simple and novice options for setting up the monitor
> refresh rates which should let you choose something close as a start.
> 

did this

> > "	Fatal Server error no screens found
> >
> > if I run xf86cfg, it goes to VGA mode and brings up the XWindows
> > configuration modules, but the mouse doesn't work.
> >
> 
> Could be that you mouse isn't configured properly. X will crash in such
> a case and give errors that seem to indicate screen problems instead of
> mouse problems. I ran into this several times and it was usually the
> last place where people look.
> 
> What mouse do you have (brand and ps/2 or usb?). Post the generated
> /etc/X11/XF86Config.
> 

It is a basic Microsoft(TM) 2 button mouse attached to PS/2.

I have tried configuring as MS mouse and PS/2 mouse (I think it set to PS/2
now).

/etc/X11/XF86Config follows.....

# File generated by xf86config.

#
# Copyright (c) 1999 by The XFree86 Project, Inc.
#
# Permission is hereby granted, free of charge, to any person obtaining a
# copy of this software and associated documentation files (the "Software"),
# to deal in the Software without restriction, including without limitation
# the rights to use, copy, modify, merge, publish, distribute, sublicense,
# and/or sell copies of the Software, and to permit persons to whom the
# Software is furnished to do so, subject to the following conditions:
# 
# The above copyright notice and this permission notice shall be included in
# all copies or substantial portions of the Software.
# 
# THE SOFTWARE IS PROVIDED "AS IS", WITHOUT WARRANTY OF ANY KIND, EXPRESS OR
# IMPLIED, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO THE WARRANTIES OF MERCHANTABILITY,
# FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE AND NONINFRINGEMENT.  IN NO EVENT SHALL
# THE XFREE86 PROJECT BE LIABLE FOR ANY CLAIM, DAMAGES OR OTHER LIABILITY,
# WHETHER IN AN ACTION OF CONTRACT, TORT OR OTHERWISE, ARISING FROM, OUT OF
# OR IN CONNECTION WITH THE SOFTWARE OR THE USE OR OTHER DEALINGS IN THE
# SOFTWARE.
# 
# Except as contained in this notice, the name of the XFree86 Project shall
# not be used in advertising or otherwise to promote the sale, use or other
# dealings in this Software without prior written authorization from the
# XFree86 Project.
#

# **********************************************************************
# Refer to the XF86Config(4/5) man page for details about the format of 
# this file.
# **********************************************************************

# **********************************************************************
# Module section -- this  section  is used to specify
# which dynamically loadable modules to load.
# **********************************************************************
#
Section "Module"

# This loads the DBE extension module.

    Load        "dbe"  	# Double buffer extension

# This loads the miscellaneous extensions module, and disables
# initialisation of the XFree86-DGA extension within that module.
    SubSection  "extmod"
      Option    "omit xfree86-dga"   # don't initialise the DGA extension
    EndSubSection

# This loads the Type1 and FreeType font modules
    Load        "type1"
    Load        "freetype"

# This loads the GLX module
#    Load       "glx"

EndSection

# **********************************************************************
# Files section.  This allows default font and rgb paths to be set
# **********************************************************************

Section "Files"

# The location of the RGB database.  Note, this is the name of the
# file minus the extension (like ".txt" or ".db").  There is normally
# no need to change the default.

    RgbPath	"/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/rgb"

# Multiple FontPath entries are allowed (which are concatenated together),
# as well as specifying multiple comma-separated entries in one FontPath
# command (or a combination of both methods)
# 
# If you don't have a floating point coprocessor and emacs, Mosaic or other
# programs take long to start up, try moving the Type1 and Speedo directory
# to the end of this list (or comment them out).
# 

#    FontPath   "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/local/"
    FontPath   "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/"
    FontPath   "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/:unscaled"
    FontPath   "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/:unscaled"
    FontPath   "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/"
    FontPath   "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo/"
    FontPath   "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/"
    FontPath   "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/"

# The module search path.  The default path is shown here.

#    ModulePath "/usr/X11R6/lib/modules"

EndSection

# **********************************************************************
# Server flags section.
# **********************************************************************

Section "ServerFlags"

# Uncomment this to cause a core dump at the spot where a signal is 
# received.  This may leave the console in an unusable state, but may
# provide a better stack trace in the core dump to aid in debugging

#    Option "NoTrapSignals"

# Uncomment this to disable the <Crtl><Alt><BS> server abort sequence
# This allows clients to receive this key event.

#    Option "DontZap"

# Uncomment this to disable the <Crtl><Alt><KP_+>/<KP_-> mode switching
# sequences.  This allows clients to receive these key events.

#    Option "Dont Zoom"

# Uncomment this to disable tuning with the xvidtune client. With
# it the client can still run and fetch card and monitor attributes,
# but it will not be allowed to change them. If it tries it will
# receive a protocol error.

#    Option "DisableVidModeExtension"

# Uncomment this to enable the use of a non-local xvidtune client. 

#    Option "AllowNonLocalXvidtune"

# Uncomment this to disable dynamically modifying the input device
# (mouse and keyboard) settings. 

#    Option "DisableModInDev"

# Uncomment this to enable the use of a non-local client to
# change the keyboard or mouse settings (currently only xset).

#    Option "AllowNonLocalModInDev"

EndSection

# **********************************************************************
# Input devices
# **********************************************************************

# **********************************************************************
# Core keyboard's InputDevice section
# **********************************************************************

Section "InputDevice"

    Identifier	"Keyboard1"
    Driver	"Keyboard"
# For most OSs the protocol can be omitted (it defaults to "Standard").
# When using XQUEUE (only for SVR3 and SVR4, but not Solaris),
# uncomment the following line.

#    Option     "Protocol"      "Xqueue"

    Option "AutoRepeat" "500 30"

# Specify which keyboard LEDs can be user-controlled (eg, with xset(1))
#    Option	"Xleds"      "1 2 3"

#    Option "LeftAlt"     "Meta"
#    Option "RightAlt"    "ModeShift"

# To customise the XKB settings to suit your keyboard, modify the
# lines below (which are the defaults).  For example, for a non-U.S.
# keyboard, you will probably want to use:
#    Option "XkbModel"    "pc102"
# If you have a US Microsoft Natural keyboard, you can use:
#    Option "XkbModel"    "microsoft"
#
# Then to change the language, change the Layout setting.
# For example, a german layout can be obtained with:
#    Option "XkbLayout"   "de"
# or:
#    Option "XkbLayout"   "de"
#    Option "XkbVariant"  "nodeadkeys"
#
# If you'd like to switch the positions of your capslock and
# control keys, use:
#    Option "XkbOptions"  "ctrl:swapcaps"

# These are the default XKB settings for XFree86
#    Option "XkbRules"    "xfree86"
#    Option "XkbModel"    "pc101"
#    Option "XkbLayout"   "us"
#    Option "XkbVariant"  ""
#    Option "XkbOptions"  ""

#    Option "XkbDisable"

    Option "XkbRules"	"xfree86"
    Option "XkbModel"	"pc104"
    Option "XkbLayout"	"us"

EndSection


# **********************************************************************
# Core Pointer's InputDevice section
# **********************************************************************

Section "InputDevice"

# Identifier and driver

    Identifier	"Mouse1"
    Driver	"mouse"
    Option "Protocol"    "PS/2"
    Option "Device"      "/dev/mouse"

# When using XQUEUE, comment out the above two lines, and uncomment
# the following line.

#    Option "Protocol"	"Xqueue"

# Baudrate and SampleRate are only for some Logitech mice. In
# almost every case these lines should be omitted.

#    Option "BaudRate"	"9600"
#    Option "SampleRate"	"150"

# Emulate3Buttons is an option for 2-button Microsoft mice
# Emulate3Timeout is the timeout in milliseconds (default is 50ms)

#    Option "Emulate3Buttons"
#    Option "Emulate3Timeout"    "50"

# ChordMiddle is an option for some 3-button Logitech mice

#    Option "ChordMiddle"

EndSection


# **********************************************************************
# Other input device sections 
# this is optional and is required only if you
# are using extended input devices.  This is for example only.  Refer
# to the XF86Config man page for a description of the options.
# **********************************************************************
#
# Section "InputDevice" 
#    Identifier  "Mouse2"
#    Driver      "mouse"
#    Option      "Protocol"      "MouseMan"
#    Option      "Device"        "/dev/mouse2"
# EndSection
#
# Section "InputDevice"
#    Identifier "spaceball"
#    Driver     "magellan"
#    Option     "Device"        "/dev/cua0"
# EndSection
#
# Section "InputDevice"
#    Identifier "spaceball2"
#    Driver     "spaceorb"
#    Option     "Device"        "/dev/cua0"
# EndSection
#
# Section "InputDevice"
#    Identifier "touchscreen0"
#    Driver     "microtouch"
#    Option     "Device"        "/dev/ttyS0"
#    Option     "MinX"          "1412"
#    Option     "MaxX"          "15184"
#    Option     "MinY"          "15372"
#    Option     "MaxY"          "1230"
#    Option     "ScreenNumber"  "0"
#    Option     "ReportingMode" "Scaled"
#    Option     "ButtonNumber"  "1"
#    Option     "SendCoreEvents"
# EndSection
#
# Section "InputDevice"
#    Identifier "touchscreen1"
#    Driver     "elo2300"
#    Option     "Device"        "/dev/ttyS0"
#    Option     "MinX"          "231"
#    Option     "MaxX"          "3868"
#    Option     "MinY"          "3858"
#    Option     "MaxY"          "272"
#    Option     "ScreenNumber"  "0"
#    Option     "ReportingMode" "Scaled"
#    Option     "ButtonThreshold"       "17"
#    Option     "ButtonNumber"  "1"
#    Option     "SendCoreEvents"
# EndSection

# **********************************************************************
# Monitor section
# **********************************************************************

# Any number of monitor sections may be present

Section "Monitor"

    Identifier  "My Monitor"

# HorizSync is in kHz unless units are specified.
# HorizSync may be a comma separated list of discrete values, or a
# comma separated list of ranges of values.
# NOTE: THE VALUES HERE ARE EXAMPLES ONLY.  REFER TO YOUR MONITOR'S
# USER MANUAL FOR THE CORRECT NUMBERS.

    HorizSync   31.5 - 82.0

#    HorizSync	30-64         # multisync
#    HorizSync	31.5, 35.2    # multiple fixed sync frequencies
#    HorizSync	15-25, 30-50  # multiple ranges of sync frequencies

# VertRefresh is in Hz unless units are specified.
# VertRefresh may be a comma separated list of discrete values, or a
# comma separated list of ranges of values.
# NOTE: THE VALUES HERE ARE EXAMPLES ONLY.  REFER TO YOUR MONITOR'S
# USER MANUAL FOR THE CORRECT NUMBERS.

    VertRefresh 40-150

EndSection


# **********************************************************************
# Graphics device section
# **********************************************************************

# Any number of graphics device sections may be present

# Standard VGA Device:

Section "Device"
    Identifier	"Standard VGA"
    VendorName	"Unknown"
    BoardName	"Unknown"

# The chipset line is optional in most cases.  It can be used to override
# the driver's chipset detection, and should not normally be specified.

#    Chipset	"generic"

# The Driver line must be present.  When using run-time loadable driver
# modules, this line instructs the server to load the specified driver
# module.  Even when not using loadable driver modules, this line
# indicates which driver should interpret the information in this section.

    Driver     "vga"
# The BusID line is used to specify which of possibly multiple devices
# this section is intended for.  When this line isn't present, a device
# section can only match up with the primary video device.  For PCI
# devices a line like the following could be used.  This line should not
# normally be included unless there is more than one video device
# intalled.

#    BusID      "PCI:0:10:0"

#    VideoRam	256

#    Clocks	25.2 28.3

EndSection

# Device configured by xf86config:

Section "Device"
    Identifier  "Unsupported VGA compatible"
    Driver      "vga"
	# unsupported card
    #VideoRam    4096
    # Insert Clocks lines here if appropriate
EndSection


# **********************************************************************
# Screen sections
# **********************************************************************

# Any number of screen sections may be present.  Each describes
# the configuration of a single screen.  A single specific screen section
# may be specified from the X server command line with the "-screen"
# option.
Section "Screen"
    Identifier  "Screen 1"
    Device      "Unsupported VGA compatible"
    Monitor     "My Monitor"
    DefaultDepth 16

    Subsection "Display"
        Depth       8
        Modes       "640x480" "800x600" "1024x768" "1280x1024"
        ViewPort    0 0
    EndSubsection
    Subsection "Display"
        Depth       16
        Modes       "640x480" "800x600" "1024x768" "1280x1024"
        ViewPort    0 0
    EndSubsection
    Subsection "Display"
        Depth       24
        Modes       "640x480" "800x600" "1024x768" "1280x1024"
        ViewPort    0 0
    EndSubsection
EndSection

# **********************************************************************
# ServerLayout sections.
# **********************************************************************

# Any number of ServerLayout sections may be present.  Each describes
# the way multiple screens are organised.  A specific ServerLayout
# section may be specified from the X server command line with the
# "-layout" option.  In the absence of this, the first section is used.
# When now ServerLayout section is present, the first Screen section
# is used alone.

Section "ServerLayout"

# The Identifier line must be present
    Identifier  "Simple Layout"

# Each Screen line specifies a Screen section name, and optionally
# the relative position of other screens.  The four names after
# primary screen name are the screens to the top, bottom, left and right
# of the primary screen.  In this example, screen 2 is located to the
# right of screen 1.

    Screen "Screen 1"

# Each InputDevice line specifies an InputDevice section name and
# optionally some options to specify the way the device is to be
# used.  Those options include "CorePointer", "CoreKeyboard" and
# "SendCoreEvents".

    InputDevice "Mouse1" "CorePointer"
    InputDevice "Keyboard1" "CoreKeyboard"

EndSection


------------ end of XF86Config ---------------

I hope all this means something to you. 

Many thanks for your assistance.

> > I run xf86config and re-enter the hardware specs (to the best of my
> > ability), but this makes no difference.
> >
> > I am basic level user with unix (some years ago), and without gui feel
> like
> > I have been thrown in the deep-end in a tied sack. If I had XWindows I
> could
> > probably start swimming.
> >
> > David
> > --------------------------------------
> > David Moore
> > dmoore@geomap.com.au
> >
> >
> >
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> >
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