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Re: Debain on the rise ! - However ....



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On Mon, Feb 02, 2004 at 01:43:18PM -0600, Kent West wrote:
> The purpose of this list is for users (experienced or newbies) to help 
> users (experienced or newbies). Off-topic messages of general interest 
> or opinions don't belong on this list, but we're all human, and 
> sometimes OT threads (or sub-threads) get started; that's just human 
> nature. After a while, participants in such threads will start getting 
> flamed for not taking it off-list, and eventually the thread dies.

Looking at the info for debian-user, I don't see anything about it
being exclusive of general-interest stuff.  The description itself
implies that the only expectation is that everybody has two things in
common:  Debian, and being/wanting to be a user of the same.  This
seems to be the general consensus for what's on-topic:  You use
Debian, you think other Debian users might find it worth talking about.

> I think Gentoo will be a great experience for you; from what I hear it's 
> an excellent distro. Of course, there are pros and cons to each distro. 

Off the top of my head with Gentoo...

Pro:  You get optimized everything.
Con:  The milliseconds you save with optimization of things that don't
really benefit from it are lost millions of times over in the time it
takes to recompile the world.

> Debian's not for everyone (although it seems a lot of folks wind up with 
> Debian as their final distro). Debian, and this list, are far from 
> perfect. Don't misunderstand me that I'm saying you're wrong; I 
> understand your frustration, and you're right about this list having a 
> lot of volume, and not always providing answers (I've been frustrated 
> several times over the years with problems that still aren't resolved). 

Everybody has that compliant with any software.  We're just willing to
warn you about the bugs up front instead of pretending they don't
exist, and we *are* a vocal userbase.  This is offsetting to some
newbies, understandably: They're coming from waiting for an hour to
speak to someone who is paid on the ability to solve the problem or
ditch the caller as fast as possible, and we're not willing to be
bald-faced liars by claiming our software is perfect.  

The best we know how to do?  Yes.  Perfect?  Why bother having mailing
lists then?

- -- 
 .''`.     Paul Johnson <baloo@ursine.ca>
: :'  :    
`. `'`     proud Debian admin and user
  `-  Debian - when you have better things to do than fix a system
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