Paul Morgan writes > 1. I don't view the watchmaker "as a watch". What reason can you give for placing your "watchmaker" in a special class? > 2. The watchmaker is extrauniversal by definition, and anything > extrauniversal is unknowable. Occam's Razor. > Cause and effect may be a local phenomenon. You contradict yourself. -- John Hasler john@dhh.gt.org Dancing Horse Hill Elmwood, Wisconsin