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Re: shuttle disaster



On Sat, 2003-02-08 at 00:27, Paul Johnson wrote:
> On Fri, Feb 07, 2003 at 11:55:06PM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote:
> > Ummm, somehow I don't think that when W was inaugurated, he was planning
> > on having these new burdens placed on the Federal budget...
> 
> Yeah, but that only accounts for the Afghan War last year, and
> *possibly* North Korea.  Iraq is his own doing here.

You mentioned "Department of Homeland Security, with most of it in the
Transportation Safety Administration".  That would have happened with
or without Iraq.

Oh, and btw, it was the Democrats pushing to have all of the baggage
screeners federalized, in the notion that would somehow make them
competent.

> > Clinton wanted to nationalize heath care, but neither happened.  The
> > Republicans forced Clinton to operate within the Budget Agreement,
> > and pass welfare reform.
> 
> Like I was saying, they expect more out of the Democrats than they
> themselves practice.

Political sniping is played by both sides, remember.

> > Oh, guess who came into office right around the time that the S&L's
> > finally got paid off?  Right...  Clinton!  So without lifting a finger,
> > the budget got a lot closer to being balanced, and Clinton took all
> > the credit.
> 
> He gets to take the credit because he wasn't the cause of the screwup
> to begin with.  And things didn't start looking significantly better

Bzzzt.  If George 41 had been re-elected, the S&L cleanup would have
occured on the same schedule, anyway.  (And the Dems wouldn't have 
lost the House...)

> until around the fifth or sixth Clinton year, *long* after Reagan and
> Bush were out of the picture and the S&Ls were paid off.  When did

I firmly disagree.

> things break down again?  Almost immediately after Bush took office.

And we still disagree on this point.

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