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Re: Debian ports [was: Re: Weirdness in "apt-get upgrade"]



My two comments on this thread:

1. The lack of an official release doesn't seem to have kept users from using
Woody. An actual "Official Release" is a nice way to keep the organization
organized, and is therefore good. But Debian is such an open organization 
that i386 users who are impatient, are hardly being inconvenienced by the lack
of an official release.

2. Debian is a community of like-minded individuals. It would be unseemly in
the extreme to cast some users into the outer darkness of commercial software
just because they found an "unpopular" brand of hardware in their local 
dumpster. 

On Fri, May 31, 2002 at 04:14:30PM -0700, Brian Nelson wrote:
> Colin Watson <cjwatson@debian.org> writes:
> 
> > It's also worth pointing out that the effort that some people see as
> > being wasted on other ports actually benefits the distribution as a
> > whole in the long run. For example, somebody complained a while back
> > about the number of bugs filed because packages didn't build on hppa;
> > what I suspect he didn't realize is that a large chunk of those bugs
> > were about gcc 3 support in C++ packages, which will be i386's default
> > compiler soon! It starts seeming a lot more worthwhile even to i386-only
> > people at that point.
> 
> Hmm, I've been thinking about this point, and it seems almost like an
> anti-argument to me.  I can't think of a more inefficient way to port
> software to gcc 3.x than to do it first on a platform that very few
> people have access to.  Presumably, woody's release has been delayed for
> months due to problems with hppa while devs tried to find access to an
> hppa machine for testing.  However, if all arches had moved to gcc 3.x
> synchronously, compilation problems across all packages probably would
> have been fixed within a month since everyone has access to i386
> machines for testing.
> 
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> Brian Nelson <nelson@bignachos.com>
> 
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