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Re: serving the web without a web server



On Tue, May 21, 2002 at 11:41:09PM +0100, Keith Robinson wrote:
 > On Tue, May 21, 2002 at 03:30:38PM -0700, Charles Baker wrote:
 >  > 
 >  > --- Keith Robinson <kar@foomonster.co.uk> wrote:
 >  > > On Tue, May 21, 2002 at 05:12:04PM -0500, Jamin W.
 >  > > Collins wrote:
 >  > >  > On Tue, 21 May 2002 23:05:18 +0100
 >  > >  > "Keith Robinson" <kar@foomonster.co.uk> wrote:
 >  > >  > 
 >  > >  > > I have something bizarre happening: I serve
 >  > > some web sites, including
 >  > >  > > http://www.dynamiccompany.co.uk and even though
 >  > > I've stopped apache
 >  > >  > > (apachectl stop), I can still ping the web
 >  > > site:
 >  > >  > 
 >  > >  > Apache has nothing to do with whether a system
 >  > > responds to a ping.  If the
 >  > >  > network interface is up, properly configured, has
 >  > > a valid IP and no
 >  > >  > filters it will respond to ping requests.
 >  > >  > 
 >  > >  > (snip)
 >  > >  > 
 >  > >  > > So, I do a traceroute (from a remote box):
 >  > >  > 
 >  > >  > Same holds true for traceroute.
 >  > >  > 
 >  > >  > (snip)
 >  > >  > 
 >  > >  > > So, are ntl or newnet (where the box is
 >  > > located) caching (aggressively)
 >  > >  > 
 >  > >  > Most likely not the case.
 >  > >  > 
 >  > >  > (snip)
 >  > >  > 
 >  > >  > > Any thoughts?  I'm a bit stumped.
 >  > >  > 
 >  > >  > Might want to take a look at the Networking
 >  > > HOWTO.
 >  > >  > 
 >  > >  > 
 >  > > 
 >  > >  Ofcourse - doh!  Thanks.  However, the site is
 >  > > still accessible through a browser, despite hard
 >  > > refreshes.  So, since I am not serving it, then I
 >  > > was thinking that it might be cached (or perhaps
 >  > > something else) - and therefore not avaialbe to
 >  > > everybody?
 >  > > 
 >  > > Any further thoughts?
 >  > > 
 >  > > Thanks for your help so far,
 >  > > 
 >  > > Keith
 >  > <<SNIP>>
 >  > 
 >  > I get connection refused. Are you sure _your_ browser
 >  > hasn't cached the site?
 >  > 
 > 
 >  Absolutely.  I just tried it from a different browser - both Mozilla and IE6 can access it, even when I try shift-refresh.  If others can't access it, then it seems to me that ntl might well be doing some serious caching - or perhaps they've broken something.

  Just tried it with lynx and things are as they should be (as it doesn't use ntl) - nothing there!

Guess I'll get on to ntl tomorrow and see what they have to say.

Thanks for all the help from everybody. It was appreciated.

Keith


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