On Mon, May 06, 2002 at 11:19:44AM -0500, Grant Edwards wrote: ... | Right. But I was proposing that the muc.* list be moderated. | When somebody "posts" to a moderated group, | the articled doesn't get posted directly to the newsgroup. The | article is e-mailed to a "moderator". What happens when "somebody" is the existing mail->news gateway? | My proposal was that the "moderator" be the mailing list. That's your news->mail bot. It's a bot because it isn't a person, and it's news->mail because you proposed using your newsreader to send the message via NNTP and have it gatewayed to SMTP. | Thus, the new article is e-mailed to the mailing list (exactly | as articles are now), which then mirrors it onto the newsgroup | (exactly as it does now). This is a description of a bidirectional news-mail gateway. | There would be no news->mail gateway (exactly as there is none now). | There is only a mail->news gateway (exactly as there is now). Your psuedo moderator is the news->mail gateway. | I don't see how there is a possibility of a loop. You have automated processes for converting mail into news and vice versa. How ever you want to describe/define it in terms of moderators, etc, it is still a bidirectional gateway. | If there _is_ danger of a loop, it must already be there, since I'm | not proposing that the gateway functionaly be changed in any way. You have proposed it to be changed or else there would be no proposal :-). You have proposed to automatically take new newsgroup postings and send them to the mailing list. | When I suggested making the group moderated and mailing | "posted" articles to the list, I was told that was a bad idea | because of the danger of loops. However, I'm still waiting for | somebody to explain how such a loop could happen. We've explained how loops occur many times. Your fake moderator is where the loop begins (if the balance isn't kept). | Perhaps my idea wouldn't work. I'd be happy to listen to an | reasons why it wouldn't, but so far all people seem to do be | doing is knocking down sraw men. As Colin said, it is _possible_ to set up a properly functioning bidirectional gateway (whether or not moderation plays a part is irrelevant), but that it is tricky and a "minor" slip-up can cause a loop. You're welcome to try and set it up, as long as you don't flood the maillist with loops :-). -D -- "Wipe Info uses hexadecimal values to wipe files. This provides more security than wiping with decimal values." -- Norton SystemWorks 2002 Manual GnuPG key : http://dman.ddts.net/~dman/public_key.gpg
Attachment:
pgp2Qzaqr5rEI.pgp
Description: PGP signature