Eduard *is* trying to help, in his own way, Liam. If I wasn't still working up the courage to wipe out Big Tit XP and install 2.2r5, I might be able to help you, but just be patient, and one of the experts like MARTIN will lend you a hand. Actually, according to the Install Manual, the CDs are the preferred method. See http://www.debian.org , which I cannot believe you have not already done...... Bruce<+>