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Re: a modest proposal - Debian needs more $



>>>>> "dman" == dman  <dsh8290@rit.edu> writes:

  dman> | I find it annoying that I can buy a Debian CD for $3.00 + shipping.
  dman> | It should be more.

  dman> This is an easy problem to solve!  Mail me a (valid) check for $1,000
  dman> US and I'll mail you back a CD.  :-)

LOL.  yeah that would work.  I was kind of hoping that others would
pitch in too.

  dman> | And remember nothing is stopping anyone from taking my CD that I buy
  dman> | and making copies of it.

  dman> This is cool.  It means I can give my friends a copy of Debian so they
  dman> can enjoy it too.

That's right - and that's good.

  dman> | I thought to myself - "it's just not fair that I can do this for
  dman> | free".  Debian needs to pay for equipment, T1's, etc...

  dman> No it doesn't.  Some people give it for free too.  "free" is about
  dman> more than just taking.

Nice in theory.  Practically speaking it's more about taking.  Human
nature I suppose.

  dman> | So I pay - then we immediately get into the tar-pit of why should I
  dman> | pay and no one else does.

  dman> 'cause you have extra dough to throw around and you want to pay :-)

That argument doesn't work for very long.  Pretty soon I'm the only
one paying and nothing gets done.  Then I don't pay anymore.

  dman> | There is a similar situation in P2P.  .01% of the people upload,
  dman> | everyone else downloads.

  dman> Maybe only .01% of the people have anything worthwhile to contribute?

Being cynical, I am assuming that 99.99% of the people are leaches.
Truly Debian is the force of anti-cynicism since it has worked so well
for so many years on a minimum of resources.

  dman> Only if you hire people who actually enjoy the project.  Volunteer

True, but they won't get paid much so they'll stil have to enjoy it
:-)

You know - lot of volunteer organizations pay people to have actual
jobs to support the organization.  It's not clear to me that Debian is
that much different.  I would like to think that the goal of getting
Debian more help is one that can be universally agreed on.  The tough
part is how to fund such a goal.

  dman> | Why not generate that money from CD/ISO/connection sales ?

  dman> Go ahead!  Charge for connections to your server.  (don't worry, I
  dman> won't connect to it)

Precisely the problem.  And what if I said I was donating ALL my
profits to Debian.  Would you still avoid it ?  Most people would.  I
have many times considered starting to sell Debian CD's for exactly
this purpose, i.e. funnel money back to Debian.  Instead of doubting
my fellow Debian enthusiast - I guess I should start and then we'll
see who is talk and who is action.

  dman> Debian is an example of how things should be.  People who have give
  dman> freely, and those who don't have receive.  It all goes 'round because
  dman> those who have aren't hording it.  The outcome is that everyone "has"
  dman> in the end.

I agree - that's the goal and a worthy one it is.

I guess I'll just write more checks.

Sorry, you won't be getting one :-)

Brian



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