also sprach kmself@ix.netcom.com (on Fri, 02 Mar 2001 02:28:39PM -0800): > $ startx <args>; exit ... which you can probably suspend... even more dangerous because now the user doesn't even notice that the system has been accessed over lunch. i think you can suspend. i am not sure. martin [greetings from the heart of the sun]# echo madduck@!#:1:s@\@@@.net -- may the bluebird of happiness twiddle your bits.