aha: http://archives.neohapsis.com/archives/postfix/2000-12/0630.html http://archives.neohapsis.com/archives/postfix/2000-12/0644.html wietse... oh well... martin [greetings from the heart of the sun]# echo madduck@!#:1:s@\@@@.net -- "a mathematician is a device for turning coffee into theorems." -- p. erdos