Re: APOLOGY!!!! for my earlier posts about unsubscribing
On Sun, 10 Dec 2000 kmself@ix.netcom.com wrote:
> on Sun, Dec 10, 2000 at 07:06:40PM -0500, Jim Kroger (kroger@Princeton.EDU) wrote:
>
> My own comments to this list.
>
> I'd contact Dr. Kroger by email and phone, and received an apologetic
> response from him this afternoon.
>
> While I do accept his apology, I feel his earlier actions were beyond
> the bounds of good taste.
>
> I think it would also be helpful for the Debian team to review the
> factors leading up to this incident. Apparently, Dr. Kroger did
> repeatedly try to unsubscribe from the debian-users list over the course
> of several weeks, his final outburst was one of frustration. Seeing
> that contact address actually do result in contact and response would be
> a Good Thing [tm].
>
> And a note to other listmembers: public humiliation is not something to
> be taken lightly. While I've found it effective in *very rare
> instances* in the past, it should be used only in aggregious cases. I'd
> checked that the technical origin of the posts attributed to Dr. Kroger
> did in fact appear to be posted from a site plausibly associated with
> him. I followed up my initial post to him and several colleagues with
> one suggesting that the posts may not have been his own doing. Though
> it in fact was, it was a gross oversight of my own not to have suggested
> this possibility in my original mail.
>
> Dr. Kroger now has some personal concerns regarding his reputation. I'd
> like to suggest that those who've addressed this issue might be willing
> to recommend that though his judgement be criticized, drastic
> repercussions are not appropriate for his actions, and be willing to
> speak on Dr. Kroger's behalf to this end. I've offered to do so myself.
> I think most of us have had our own email goofs and can probably relate.
>
> Finally, please note that this mail is being directed to several
> recipients. I'd advise an awareness of this and suggest response
> addresses be directed as appropriate.
>
> Cheers.
Stop covering your ass, Kroger made a mistake, but "your" behavior
"Karsten Self" was disgusting!
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