Would it be possible for someone to post their apt sources.conf file for me? I seem to be having problems with mine after installing alien. Don't know what I did, it was working fine until I installed alien, now I keep getting timed out at 54%, trying to log in. It returns an Err ftp message.. no such file or directory.. On the other hand, perhaps I have a different problem thanks dale -- "Make voyages, attempt them, there's nothing else." --Tennessee Williams