-> Should I rotate /var/log/wtmp? It's huge. Yet syslogd-listfiles -a -> does not show it. -chris you should but wat needs binary rotating. syslog-listfies lists only files from /etc/syslog.conf wtmp is not handled by syslog (and hardly will be) -- Matus "fantomas" Uhlar, sysadmin at NEXTRA, Slovakia; IRCNET admin of *.sk uhlar@fantomas.sk ; http://www.fantomas.sk/ ; http://www.nextra.sk/ A day without sunshine is like, night.