My Hardware Clock is set to local time to keep another OS happy. /etc/rcS.d has S20modutils S50hwclock.sh (among others) so modules.dep is timestamped as though the Hardware Clock were set to GMT. I have kernel 2.2.13 and "RTC stores time in GMT" set to "no" under APM. Did I forget to set "thip crinkle and spoit" to "no"? :) TIA, John