Robert <shadow@linuxfan.com> wrote: => Is it a bug? Seems like the default for allowing a ppp dial out => would be => up to the admin and not users? Yes, that's exactly what I thought. I have always found that to be able to dial out as a regular user with Linux involves a lot of permission changes etc.. -- Phillip Deackes gsmh@gmx.net Debian Linux (Potato)