-> this is in /etc/init.d/netstd_init -> -> test -f /usr/sbin/routed || exit 0 -> -> that causes to exit if routed exists; shouldn't be there -> -> test -x /usr/sbin/routed && exit 0 aha i'm wrong :( -- Matus "fantomas" Uhlar, sysadmin at Telenor Internet Kosice, Slovakia BIC coord for *.sk; admin of netlab.irc.sk; co-admin of irc.felk.cvut.cz "Where do you want to go to die?" [Microsoft]