Thanks for all the emails I received about GNOME. In the end I got the debian slink 0.3 version going and liked it so much I promptly deleted it and went and got the gnome1.0 tar balls and compiled a new version. It only took me a couple of days (not bad considering I have never compiled my own programs before and screwed it up the compile order a couple of times). Gnome is GOOD! Cheers Matt